Emasculation of the Western Man

luka

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Do you feel emasculated? Are you worried about the emasculation of the western male? What should we do about it? Does the male encounter group we run here help or does it just contribute to the problem?
 

luka

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I'm proud of you for admitting that. The bravest man is he who can confess to weakness. As Craner once said.
 

luka

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I remember a documentary called something like pimps whores and Johns where a s&m woman was talking about using the cheese grater. Always stuck in my mind that image
 

martin

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I remember a documentary called something like pimps whores and Johns where a s&m woman was talking about using the cheese grater. Always stuck in my mind that image
I think I saw that too...it's a blonde woman and they pixel out his plonker while she's grating it and he's screaming, right?

It's like with Operation Spanner: feel obliged to support the consenting defendants on grounds of basic freedom, but please don't tell me the details because now I can't close a fist.
 

martin

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It was on channel 4, presumably, probably mid to late 90s
Yeah, that does ring a bell, think it was around the time they also screened Nick Broomfield's 'Fetishes'? Probably running some 'sex season'. The only thing I remember about 'Fetishes' is the bloke licking the toilet bowl. Again, totally defend your freedom to blah blah but :sick: 🤮
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
Certainly an issue, namely how to reconcile such ostensibly negative developments with the ostensibly positive developments of social progress, egalitarian progress, however slight and incremental.

One of the reasons I think the social left needs to open up avenues for a will to power, one that can prove to be an effective alternative to the traditional, boundless-libidinal route that fascism boasts.

Doesn't feel impossible, just insane. Hence my tolerance of and proclivity for insanity, hubris, etc. - such things that can afford greater volumes or surpluses of ambition, vitality, etc.
 

luka

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We need to see results soon Stan? Give us actual concrete proposals. We will bankroll you but only once we see concrete proposals.
 

martin

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It's weird, I've had gay/lesbian mates, my nephew's gay, hated the fash PE teachers who made my childhood a misery, can't even fight that well unless I'm in kamikaze mode, never once occurred to me to worry about trans people in the toilet etc etc - but I see some bloke on Twitter in a cardigan with a smug grin tweeting "FFS men - be better" - and I just want him to get battered outside a kebab shop.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
I suppose the kind of excellence I have in mind is a sort of sublime exposure to the sheer potential of excellence, societal and individual. This is the sort of thing that fascism would bank on, from what I gather, but I'm not convinced it has a monopoly on boundless libido.

Its clearly what works with Trump. The capacity to say fuck off to those asking you to compromise. My idea is nearly the polar opposite though. Seems to take more of a wu wei approach, yielding to the currents which you find yourself in, becoming increasingly imperturbable by virtue of sequestering "your" energy reserves beyond you, investing in trends on higher timescales, eternal timescales.
 

luka

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These things are usually easier said than done. You have to demonstrate as opposed to explain. Trump enacted what he stood for, he didn't expound on it. The way he insulted the republicans in the, what do you call it, the race for the nomination bit. That was supreme. Best political performance since Clinton played the sax on Arsenio Hall. Rewrote the rule book. Loved it.
 
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