Emasculation of the Western Man

constant escape

winter withered, warm
I've written extensively and very incisively about this phenomenon yes this is true. My theory is that watching porn puts you in a cuckolded position, watching another man with the woman of your desires. There he is, shaved balls flapping about. So there's this mass shame being given expression.
What about all the porn that doesn't involve penises? In such cases, is the sexual agency of the viewer (in our case male) just dissipated entirely, as opposed to being represented by a body with agency?

All this talk of cuckoldry this and that, it all assumes that there is always a role to be played, the in the pornographic scenario, by a male body anyway, which isn;t always the case.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
I think very interesting virtual sexual relations are being elaborated thanks to porn. Parasocial sexuality. One way dialogues.

edit: not sure how well "one way dialogue" works in this case, actually.
 
the opening posts to that nerd thread are so close to my feelings that I get a sense you’ve somehow stolen them off me. It’s an understanding of social stratification stuck in secondary school
 

luka

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the opening posts to that nerd thread are so close to my feelings that I get a sense you’ve somehow stolen them off me. It’s an understanding of social stratification stuck in secondary school
My role in dissensus is to suck out and siphon off everyone's unarticulated thoughts and claim them as my own
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
I think porn, namely the task of the viewer, involves an alignment with libidinal rhythms. A tuning in, an attempt to finely cleave to the ebbs and flows being enacted. And the bodily participation on behalf of the viewer is, at its bare minimum, physiologically obligatory.

Might not even be that way forever, but the neurotechnics seems a ways away from that. Not even sure if a neurotechnics has been properly elaborated yet, as either a field or an industry. Haven't looked.

But back to porn: since the bodily involvement of the participant-qua-viewer is, in the case of the digital, abstracted beyond the physical interaction with the other sexual participants, the performers - because of this abstraction, it is as if a certain set of constraints are lifted, in terms of what the pre-digital, pre-remote sexual experience really demands of all its participants, no?
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
And the parasocial dynamic is arguably the central one, no?

That is, instead of a normal social experience, which is conversational and involves bilaterial information passages, the parasocial experience is unilateral. That is, you can't engage in dialogue with a recording. It can transmit information to you, but not the other way.

How does the parasocial dynamic specifically effect sexually social experiences? Well, we are well into that transition. Not sure how well it has been analyzed. Again, haven't looked.
 

luka

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Constraints are lifted in that youre not in contact and communication with other people per se. Their image effects you but you don't effect their image. It's one way. But what
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
About what sorry, what conclusions are you drawing from that
In general terms, seemingly, there is much more room, more possibilities, in terms of the development of one's sexuality. But because its such a sensitive issue, there will no doubt continue to be a reactionary sensibility that persists, with people cleaving to what makes sense, what feels normal, what feels less scary, etc.

Its really fascinating, what porn has been doing to us. I say full steam ahead, provided one can manage their psychic hygiene, namely the sexual dimensions of it.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
I think the big thing with these digitally mediated sexual experiences, these parasocial experiences, involves the locus of agency, a locus that once was housed in the body, but is gradually being abstracted.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
I think the big thing with these digitally mediated sexual experiences, these parasocial experiences, involves the locus of agency, a locus that once was housed in the body, but is gradually being abstracted.
The conscious organism being a physical machine of such complexity it can actually detect and exploit loopholes in its own wiring. A hastened evolution. "Wait, we don't need to actually be touching another body in order to regulate these chemicals. Pixels will do." etc.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
A consistent point across everything being that the ego is, in effect, dragged along by more primal developments. Not quite entirely epiphenomenal, but somewhat delusional.
 
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