Soul, the disneyfication

[sus]

This is pure gaslighting, you made a point linking metaphor and capitalism; I pointed out that the phenomenon was of a broader scope and didn't have all that much to do with capitalism; you repeatedly called me obtuse and said I was pretending to miss the point, WHICH I WASN'T and repeatedly said so.

 

[luka]

You're being obtuse. Weird. I don't understand it.

 

[linebaugh]

I dont appreciate having my comment walked right passed

 

[sus]

All I ever wanted to do was make a point about how a specific economic system has become a replacement/fallguy for any issue people have with contemporary life, a point you PERFECTLY WELL agree with and you know it.

 

[linebaugh]

a whole well of insight just skipped on over to bicker

 

[sus]

Linebaugh your comment was perfectly reasonable unlike THIS doofus's. I could find no fault in it.

 

[version]

why do you have this mad idea that every interaction has a winner and a loser? It's bizarre. I made an elementary point which you decided to pretend not to understand for whatever reason. And that was the end. There wasn't a prize on offer.

He's American.

 

[sus]

I win this round.

 

[version]

All I ever wanted to do was make a point about how a specific economic system has become a replacement/fallguy for any issue people have with contemporary life, a point you AGREE with and you know it, and you keep calling me obtuse!

Which part of contemporary life can be untangled from capitalism?

 

[linebaugh]

theres something to be said for the primacy of the associations though. the same metaphors are all tossed around but where does the mind go first when presented with them out of context? capitalism or whatever you'd like isnt excluded from loading our signifiers and in some areas its share of signification could probably be called 'colonization' with a little aesthetic liberty

good stuff limbo, you know recent developments in intellectual property have even left certain chord progressions, grooves, even keys under copyright

 

[sus]

Which part of contemporary life can be untangled from capitalism?

Off the top of my head, any part that has been consistently shown to occur in non- and pre-market societies/domains

 

[sus]

good stuff limbo, you know recent developments in intellectual property have even left certain chord progressions, grooves, even keys under copyright

what key is under copyright

 

[linebaugh]

what key is under copyright

That was probably sloppy speech. its not so simple, cases on infringement have been ruled in favor on nothing more than similar 'feel' to past songs, and key is part of that matrix. Theres a nascent huckster industry where savvy lawyers dazzle musically unknowing juries with music theory talk to win cases on bad faith arguments. theres an adam neely video on it

 

[linebaugh]

the big one was probably the blurred lines case from a while go, but theres been a few since. I cant exactly reel them off but its something I come across every now and then

 

[luka]

All I ever wanted to do was make a point about how a specific economic system has become a replacement/fallguy for any issue people have with contemporary life, a point you PERFECTLY WELL agree with and you know it.

I haven't read your points but if they disagree with mine then I reject them

 

[version]

Off the top of my head, any part that has been consistently shown to occur in non- and pre-market societies/domains

We aren't pre-market anymore though and is there anywhere that's really non-market now? Anything that existed before the market has been absorbed by it anyway.

 

[sus]

That was probably sloppy speech. its not so simple, cases on infringement have been ruled in favor on nothing more than similar 'feel' to past songs, and key is part of that matrix. Theres a nascent huckster industry where savvy lawyers dazzle musically unknowing juries with music theory talk to win cases on bad faith arguments. theres an adam neely video on it

I agree that judges ruling on IP cases should probably have musicology backgrounds, or be experts in whatever relevant field.

 

[version]

Showgirls!

 

[linebaugh]

I agree that judges ruling in on IP cases should probably have musicology backgrounds, or be experts in the relevant field.

Ya I wasnt saying you didnt. just that as the cases are currently ruled, a savvy lawyer can effectively argue as if certain keys are intellectual property. The big spooky ghost of capital is colonizing our very tones and modalities

 

[sus]

Ya I wasnt saying you didnt. just that as the cases are currently ruled, a savvy lawyer can effectively argue as if certain keys are intellectual property. The big spooky ghost of capital is colonizing our very tones and modalities

Do you wanna get rid of IP? That would be interesting. It could get crazy