Milton H Erickson

luka

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Often feel as though auto hypnosis is the secret to everything
 

luka

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Trance is obviously cool and is sort of the antithesis of what people think of as mindfulness, ie, being 'here.' Trance is being 'there'.
 

luka

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It's not always important to be 'here'. It's often very boring to be 'here' and you're far better off trying to get 'there'.
 

146 I.Q. Magical thinker

Bamber Clatscoigne
Is the mainstream fixation on mindfulness partly about closing down visionary thought? I remember a teacher in primary school telling 6yo me to get my head out of the clouds. I hated her after that.
 

Matthew

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Is the mainstream fixation on mindfulness partly about closing down visionary thought? I remember a teacher in primary school telling 6yo me to get my head out of the clouds. I hated her after that.
that's very true about mindfulness. it aspires to induce a kind of transcendent integration but could just as easily bring one back to a very normal and boring reality.

in Buddhism it's packaged up with a whole load of things (most obviously non-attachment and compassion) which if included do, at least theoretically, create a kind of magical/liminal experience of "reality".

in Buddhism in many ways the practice of mindfulness is the necessary grounding corollary to the dreamy state you get into through ascetism.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
Thats why I think mindfulness, as a practice, is so conducive to culturally liberal professionalism. Being good at being here is a character asset, no? Being good at being there just makes you difficult to work with.

edit: from a perspective of professionalism, that is.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
There is a sort of neoliberal-friendly pseudo-enlightenment to be found here. Maximizing every opportunity, being robustly present as much as you can. Its like a sort of gracious libidinization of productiveness.
 

constant escape

winter withered, warm
All things considered, I think I'd condone it in most cases. So long as mindfulness extends beyond presentness and into thoughtfulness.
 

constant escape

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But also a utopian, a bourgeois roundabout communist.

Also the condoning is conditional, namely on the condition that I personally don't have to be present among such professionals.
 

woops

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cross reference to another thread defining dissensus as 1/3 kapital, 1/3 commune, 1/3 erotic wonderland (was meant as an obscure compliment i suppose) edit: please ignore me
 

146 I.Q. Magical thinker

Bamber Clatscoigne
I thought the name was familiar My wife was a hypnotherapist for a spell and Milton Erickson was a major figure. We've a books about him My Voice Will Go with You: The Teaching Tales of Milton H. Erickson. I might dig it out and read it after the Huygens.
 
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