notation in music?

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Luke Davis
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john eden

male pale and stale
I quite like it when you go to OTO and there’s a load of people following a score. Different vibe. Sometimes it’s those painterly graphic scores.

Derek Bailey did some quasi scores for music but they were more like fluxus instructions really. They had some musicians using them and one guy looked SO pissed off when he pulled out a card that said “go and clean the toilet”. He went off and did it though, while everyone else played instruments.
 

john eden

male pale and stale
Someone was saying Messiaen’s piano stuff was a bit Les Dawson too. It’s a great leveller but I think Bailey would have loved the comparison because Les WAS improvising and he was very talented. He achieved exactly the effect he was seeking.
 

catalog

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Anyone see that diagram mark fell did of rave culture hitting Rotherham? Where he put in plot points for the first pills hitting and all that? Like the Jeremy deller thing.

I think he's right about music as well, that doing it on a computer makes it a visual thing too much.
 

wektor

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I'll try and find that diagram it's good, I think it was in an exhibition.
really hoping its a hires version
I quite like it when you go to OTO and there’s a load of people following a score. Different vibe. Sometimes it’s those painterly graphic scores.

Derek Bailey did some quasi scores for music but they were more like fluxus instructions really. They had some musicians using them and one guy looked SO pissed off when he pulled out a card that said “go and clean the toilet”. He went off and did it though, while everyone else played instruments.
in that setting i can see that it makes sense - a few times I wasn't quite sure if I came to an improv session or something else, I suppose you can have an impression that you have a little bit more of a grasp on what's happening and feel bit safer in result.
on the other hand ive heard that fell sometimes would just start up the patch and sip coffee throughout the piece - very engaging and theatrical performances can be very decent but if the music is good enough stand for itself? i rate that.

also: scores can definitely be a nice thing, ie yoshi wada's scores for fairly long pieces for several instruments which look quite simple and pleasing.
btw black midi is more pleasurable to look at than to listen to usually so in that specific case quite often notation>music
 

catalog

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really hoping its a hires version

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WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
He could’ve drawn a cock in it and you wouldn’t know.

It’s a bit like listening to Xenakis - how do you score it? Do you even grasp the nuances first, second, third listens and if you do how could that be notationally represented?

I give Persepolis a rinse a few times each year to floss out psychic gunk, but notating him is beyond my remit. “I am s-s-s-sitting in a room” by Alvin Lucier is a bit easier.
 

woops

is not like other people
Penderecki's handwriting is annoyingly difficult to read

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bah!
 
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