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What do you think of this stuff with the farmers in India?
www.bbc.com

India protest: Farmers breach Delhi's Red Fort in huge tractor rally

Farmers angry at market reforms smashed their way through police lines to march into central Delhi.
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I'm keeping an eye on it, the question is whether it will link with the industrial militancy in say Haridabad. I'm not surprised the unions are distancing themselves from it, in 2015 in Turkey there was a brief assemblage of an embrionic workers council structure in the metalworkers industry due to the unions being controlled by the fascists - trade unionism and far rightism are by no means exclusive and in many parts of the developing world quite complementary to each other.
 
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well i mean thanks for agreeing with my point that punk was fundamentally a petit-bourgeois movement to save hippy culture from its own excesses. aka. thanks for self-torpidoing your own point about the Sex Pistols.

 
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lmfao clueless. The proletariat produces hegemony as it is constitutive of capital. Do these people not understand that labour power as a commodity is subdivided into individual units but is ultimately a collective social commodity?
 
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really this links to the weakness of hegemony theory in essence though. Instead of looking at what people do, it looks at what people say and how they rationalise what they do. But in that case you're trapped in an insoluble contradiction as counter-hegemony becomes impossible. If you are a materialist and take consciousness proceeding existence or existence itself determining consciousness, then any hegemonic ideology is already ipso facto post-hoc of developments which took place in the past. I.E: it is not something consciously instituted by the ruling class but something that arises within the gradiants of social intercourse itself. So to have anti-hegemony is itself a logically incoherent statement.

It would be like me saying I want to resist the past, which is of course what all labour party melts do. We want to institute socialism in the labour party even though all historical developments have indicated the exact opposite. Worse than salafism. Salafism at least hints at a lost golden age.
 
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you always have to do your own thing. its the only essential point. you have to make your own party, then, out of spite, make it better than all the parties you got turned away from
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