version

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but people can go without coffee and iPhones. The point is... why should it be a contradiction to desire the things that have been produced
under capitalism or benefit from its fruits while pointing out that it’s immiserating, destroying us etc
You can go without an iPhone, you can't really go without a drink during a protest. You just go grab what's closest. If there's a Starbucks where you are then you get a Starbucks.

It's a contradiction because you're contributing to the misery and destruction whilst railing against it. This is why there doesn't appear to be an outside. Anything you try to do just feeds into it, e.g. buying a book on deforestation.
 

woops

is not like other people
Anyway this problem has been solved, last year i got stranded in the middle of an extinction rebellion protest and they had special hippies serving avocado rice and mung tea to all present.
 

luka

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We were drinking prosecco and then suddenly these disgusting hippies swarmed all over us all the girls had hairy legs
 

RWY

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This matter of whether the ownership of an iPhone or purchase of a coffee whilst avowing radical politics contitutes a contradiction is trivial and besides the point regarding the actual hypocrisy at the heart of the British Left that Third and I were converging on earlier in the thread.
 

wild greens

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Real anti capitalists would have used those costa machines you get in big corner shops and the co-op instead

Louise Mensch had a mental twitter once it was great. Is she still crazy
 
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