Sweat, Dust & Whiskey

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I didn't know Wake in Fright was based on a novel. What are some good books in this vein? Luke mentioned Ballard. He's got a few like that. That Steinbeck I read recently had a lot of lounging around drinking gallons of wine at midday. DeLillo's The Names is an upmarket version with a bunch of professional Americans occupying Greece in the 80s.

There's a distinction between the professional or tourist abroad story and the sweaty, dusty story, mind you. One's grimy, unbuttoned shirts stuck to your back, the other's affairs, intrigue and linen suits. Sorcerer vs. The Talented Mr. Ripley.

I've scanned my stacks for this sort of thing to get through before the weather turns and zeroed in on Queer, Cocaine Nights, Under the Volcano and Sundays in August. The Africa section of Journey to the End of the Night fits the bill too, but I'm not up for re-reading that atm.
 

linebaugh

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Im reading east of eden right now. Ive read he was an author whose conceptual project, like edgar allen poe, was to make writing as entertaining as possible and this fits the bill. Extremely smooth fast reading but still manages to put a bit of poetry into the prose.
 

sus

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@sus you have the most mentions of him among active users, do you have thoughts?
I've only read his short works, like The Pearl, Mice & Men, Tortilla Flat, Cannery Row, some of his short stories. I really liked Tortilla Flat. I grew up near Monterey and really appreciate the world he built/described along the wharfs. I also really like his fascination with the natural world. So many metaphors of tide pools and marine life. The Pearl feels like a Mexican fairy tale told by a pagan ecologist.
 

sus

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I think he mainly just cared about "normal people," both as reader as subjects, and was never part of a "literary" establishment. He never seems like he's trying to win palace politics or charm cosmo-socialites. The craft for Steinbeck is storytelling, language as means rather than ends.
 

IdleRich

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it all has a pantomime quality doesnt it. it doesnt look like real dirt or real sweat or even a real haircut
I must have said this before, but I guess that period films tend to have hair styled by adding a period cut on top of a "basic, neutral" look. The problem is that if the film itself is made in the 80s then what the stylist thinks of as neutral look is likely to in fact be an 80s style. And probably the same is true for clothes and so on. The peculiar thing is that, to the average viewer, at the time the film is made this won't be visible, but a few years later as fashions change, this will become more and more apparent.

So it's not hard to diagnose this, but clearly it's quite hard to step back and deal with it and create the truly neutral look which appears to be a stage on the way to costumes that authentically replicate the look of another era.
 
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linebaugh

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I think he mainly just cared about "normal people," both as reader as subjects, and was never part of a "literary" establishment. He never seems like he's trying to win palace politics or charm cosmo-socialites. The craft for Steinbeck is storytelling, language as means rather than ends.
Theres a chapter in east of eden where he pauses the narration to declare his willingness to fight communism and preserve american individuality. Doesnt really relate to anything else going on. And supposedly he worked for the CIA. I imagine his conservative streak also left him outside the intellegentsia
 
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