Twitter style and tone

shakahislop

Well-known member
its not twitter but i watched about an hour of ben shapiro and then tucker carlson last night. my gut reaction was one that probably a million people have had with things they don't like over the centuries: isn't this stuff going to be banned at some point? it feels so ostentatiously, blatantly negative to me. an incitement to hate.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
its not twitter but i watched about an hour of ben shapiro and then tucker carlson last night. my gut reaction was one that probably a million people have had with things they don't like over the centuries: isn't this stuff going to be banned at some point? it feels so ostentatiously, blatantly negative to me. an incitement to hate.
Well Carlson is promulgating a conspiracy theory that's now the official ideology of far-right terrorists.
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
Well Carlson is promulgating a conspiracy theory that's now the official ideology of far-right terrorists.
well yeah. exactly. for a while i've been wondering for a while if the limits of 'free speech' are going to close in a bit in the coming years (I mean decades). i think RT is off air now for example. there are a lot of incentives for states to do things like this and there's an authoritarian trend in anglo culture I think. certainly the idea that you can say more or less anything you want with no consequences, outside of a fairly limited set of things considered hate speech, looks more and more like an quirk of the 90s and 00s than, as it used to seem, an irreversible long-term direction of travel
 
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mixed_biscuits

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well yeah. exactly. for a while i've been wondering for a while if the limits of 'free speech' are going to close in a bit in the coming years (I mean decades). i think RT is off air now for example. there are a lot of incentives for states to do things like this and there's an authoritarian trend in anglo culture I think. certainly the idea that you can say more or less anything you want with no consequences, outside of a fairly limited set of things considered hate speech, looks more and more like an quirk of the 90s and 00s than, as it used to seem, an irreversible long-term direction of travel
Sorry, you can't say that
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Today and yesterday twitter seemed to deliberately mix up the twitter feeds of loads of militant vegans and their enemies with predictable results... I followed this, less predictable, argument which kicked off when someone pointed out the correct spelling of bestiality and said it was spelled that way cos it's best.

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IdleRich

IdleRich
One thing that pisses me off is when people do political surveys. I mean something about a big issue that has been debated ad infinitum in the press already. "Who would you prefer as leader of the Labour Party out of Starmer or Corbyn?" or "Would you like to reverse Brexit?".

The thing for me is that there have already been millions of surveys on these subjects done by national organizations who are able to sample a cross section of society that is carefully selected to avoid bias in the sample as much as possible and then the results are statistically adjusted to remove anomalies etc

What is gonna be added to that by BrexitTillIDie2356633 asking his 17 followers? When his poll shows 99 percent still in favour of Brexit is he gonna quote that survey in future or what? I always feel my eyes automatically sliding away from these things, it just feels like attention seeki from idiots.

I should say, it wouldn't rile me so much if it was a rarity, the problem is that so many people seem to be doing it all the time. When I log in to twitter I mainly want to see news that hasn't hit the official websites yet, other than that I'd like to see some original thoughts if possible - but this is the opposite of that, a constant and interminable shuffling and reshuffling of common information blurted lazily out simply for the sake of saying something, clogging the airwaves with grey formless mush.
 
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glasshand

dj panic attack
heard this on a podcast thought it was a good summary

"Twitter looks like short strings of text, but in fact it is mostly relational information - who follows who, who interacts with who. It is a vibe engineering machine, where small communities send vibes to particular signifiers. Vibe warfare. The aim is to give as much negative association as possible to the things you don't like."
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
What is gonna be added to that by BrexitTillIDie2356633 asking his 17 followers? When his poll shows 99 percent still in favour of Brexit is he gonna quote that survey in future or what? I always feel my eyes automatically sliding away from these things, it just feels like attention seeki from idiots.
That's a reasonable point, but I think it's a bit mean to pick on @luka like that.
 

version

Well-known member
heard this on a podcast thought it was a good summary

"Twitter looks like short strings of text, but in fact it is mostly relational information - who follows who, who interacts with who. It is a vibe engineering machine, where small communities send vibes to particular signifiers. Vibe warfare. The aim is to give as much negative association as possible to the things you don't like."

Debord's criticism of McLuhan's 'global village',

"Villages, unlike towns, have always been ruled by conformism, isolation, petty surveillance, boredom and repetitive malicious gossip about the same families. Which is a precise enough description of the global spectacle's present vulgarity,"
 
What I still find difficult when trying to get into it is that it’s not actually a place to talk to people. It’s a place to signal and make statements
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
What I still find difficult when trying to get into it is that it’s not actually a place to talk to people. It’s a place to signal and make statements
Thats exactly how I engage with it. Just to survey my local cultural-industrial landscape (IE DAOs)
 
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