this is why you keep accusing me of secretly loving it, you secretly hate it and all the art school kids that play it at the parties they don't invite you to. And you're right to hate it.
That's why I brought up the rustie the other day as a kind of marker on the way to where we are now https://dissensus.com/index.php?threads/15853/im glad you are engaging with it now because i knew youd have interesting things to say
grime garage and bassline are all big reference points. also rustie and hudson mohawke and all that hyper kitschy stuff