luka

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I want to say, maybe I did say at the start of the thread, that this is the first time since the Rennasaince you've had this collective drive to replicate reality. Because for so long we were concerned with reproducing )with camera or recording equipment) as opposed to recreating or creating
 

wektor

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when pc music was starting to blow up i engaged with it from a point of envy + resentment because -i do not know how this kind of sound design is done-. it all sounds very -expensive-, in its depth and its intensity.
Very detailed renders that you could tell took ages unless someone had a NASA supercomputer at hand.
Still a feeling someone could've done something more tasteful with it, huh, but technically there is no way you can point out anything bad about it.
Matter of taste I guess.

Also not related to the sound discussed but Lopatin's music sounds exactly as shiny as the money he'd spent on his gear was.
 
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other_life

bioconfused
which lopatin records are you talking about. i can talk lopatin. i know very few things and it's pathetic but i know lopatin
 

wektor

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which lopatin records are you talking about. i can talk lopatin. i know very few things and it's pathetic but i know lopatin
not sure as i got through his whole discography once without paying much attention to specific releases, but would say his glitchy releases would resemble something of that 80s image of a rich kid in snow white sneakers who's got the very first edition of a personal computer and now fucks around with it while stoned
 

other_life

bioconfused
he relishes in this. the black snow video is a self portrait.
for some reason i was happy with 0pn getting signed to warp but not sophie.
what if im actually a misogynist and the terfs are right?
 

linebaugh

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in a move that will satisfy few here I keep thinking of the moment in relation to guitar music's turn towards the physicality of sound around the time of early psyche and Cool Rock Music's birth with the velvet underground and the stooges.

The depths and textures and tactility of the sounds and environments created become as important as the tune. The grating violin at the end of VU's Heroin is an entirely physical phenomenon, no different than Arca tossing in some screeching amorphous howl into a track. I love all this stuff but you would also understand how someone could take the angle Luka is taking here with CGI music and say that it was a transitionary moment. A project only fully realized later with sub genres in and around the punk, post-punk, metal, noise, psychedelic label (genres that are all primarily physical) presenting the effort in their own concise thematic packaging. Its not a perfect comparison but it could be CGI music is at a similar point of bifurcation.

I used to listen to My Bloody Valentine and feel like the intense weight portrayed in the music was tugging at my chest with all the physicality of a giant pushing an iceberg up a mountain. Has CGI music had that moment yet? Genuine question as I'm not the most familiar

 
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other_life

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this is actually a very good point of comparison. cgi music has most definitely not had its my bloody valentine moment
 

linebaugh

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so what’s that the collapse of meaning and symbols into some disintegrated haze?
Im saying MBV is doing the opposite. You take a general ambiguous ethos- the physicality sound- and realize it into something with clear intent and meaning. MBV doing something like a synthesis of the physical qualities of weight and viscosity with the emotional quality of angst into some crystalline 90's artifact. CGI music might still be in that ambiguous phase
 

linebaugh

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Its very unclear what CGI music wants you to do with it, or it to you. Thats part of the appeal. There's perfect transparency in technique and complete opacity in intent. Are you supposed to dance to SOPHIE? And its ostensibly emotional music but the thought of having an emotional experience to it is almost laughable
 

luka

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Its very unclear what CGI music wants you to do with it, or it to you. Thats part of the appeal. There's perfect transparency in technique and complete opacity in intent. Are you supposed to dance to SOPHIE? And its ostensibly emotional music but the thought of having an emotional experience to it is almost laughable
Right yes that's the very odd thing that's why I called it an R&D phase. It can't be an end in itself can it.
 
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