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luka

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Staff member
And with Scotland, yes same. Three elections on the go, if they want to leave, maybe it is time.

I despise nationalism, not sure it will work out how they think. Like I have always said too, the idea that an independent Scotland would be a left wing dream is hilarious: Scotland has a very conservative rump, nationalist or not. The union was also based on a Scottish enthusiasm for the economic and military benefits of the British Empire.
 

boxedjoy

Well-known member
at the start of the indyref campaign I was a fairly convinced Yes voter, because who wouldn't want to disalign with what was going on in the country then. But then I realised that by sending 55 MPs from Scotland to Westminster we can do more good: independence might work out better for the 5million Scots but far worse for the rest of the country. I think without the Scottish electorate, UK politics would lean a lot further right, and life would be noticably harder for a greater number of people.
 

boxedjoy

Well-known member
I hate nationalism too. It's about dividing people into an Us vs Them, and as someone who has spent most of their life being part of a Them and not an Us, I find the idea disconcerting.
 

craner

Beast of Burden
We're learning a lot about the people and culture of the SNP at the moment. The stuff coming out about Charles Kennedy today is just the latest.
 
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