The terminal decline of intellectual dance music

luka

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He could of gone oh dear I wish I was in that trendy Paris with duchesses and louche princesses as my patrons, swanning in and out of literary salons, bestowing bon mots on wide eyed acolytes, my life is right boring, what's the point of writing
 

thirdform

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It's part of the reason for my violent rebellion against it now. Still not fully purged from my system. the temptation to zonk out and feel nothing at all (no pleasure from music when high) is still strong.
 

luka

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I'm always envying other people though. I'd love to have the autistics obsession powers for instance. I fondly imagine myself sitting at the typewriter, total tunnel vision, 8 hours roll by
 
He could of gone oh dear I wish I was in that trendy Paris with duchesses and louche princesses as my patrons, swanning in and out of literary salons, bestowing bon mots on wide eyed acolytes, my life is right boring, what's the point of writing

He wrote it in Paris actually but your point still stands
 

luka

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Seeing the architecture of the thing in my head, it's corridors and spiral staircases
 

luka

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this aculturism speaks to a particularly middle-class beta male aversion to emotional sincerity, commitment and aspiration. the adam buxton mentality.
it's music for people who've been coddled by their mum and had an impotent, empty shell of a dad.
it signifies the vacuum that the alt right has stepped in to replace.

directionless, powerless, socially and sexually isolated white men.
 

thirdform

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What about modern producers?
Lots of people talk to me about Burial, but I’ve listened to that a bit, and you know, he isn’t nearly as good a producer as Basic Channel or… Someone told me that Ricardo Villalobos said he really likes our music and that he’s trying to channel it into his tracks, but we’re like, you’re a house producer, don’t look at us, look at the real house producers, the masters, the people we were influenced by. Don’t go through us.

Luke vindicated by AE, what a world. https://www.factmag.com/2009/01/01/interview-autechre/3/
 

WashYourHands

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I miss dancing, big time. It’s something we do with the kids more now. Put on a record and they love a bop

Thematically, there’s been so many iterations of drum programming over the last number of decades (change that timeframe to suit your own position). It can only go so far. Mark Fell falls into both sides of this paradigm. Similar patterns have developed with understandings of practices aligned to bass production and its various manifestations

@thirdform is correct about Weatherall, the constant shapeshifter in these murky waters. His productions have stood the test of time, something all the Aphex clones can only dream of, in the same way insert recent bass-specific music can’t really match any number of Dub releases

What was the question again?
 

wektor

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I really do not understand how can people consider cold and emotionless music as equivalent, I think in case of AE it's a similar region of nuum that grime is coming from.
Might be cold but I would not say it's empty or insincere just because it's a bit autistic and not so directly expressing emotions.
IMO IDM tends to be dysfunctional in how it's dealing with emotion, but still AE wouldn't even be on top 10 autistic electronica, quite the opposite.
 
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