No Club Scene for Old Men

[catalog]

As i said above it's one of the blokes from Hood, lo fi indie group releasing on every tiny label ever, and the Remote Viewer, basically the lo-fi autechre with loser aesthetic.

Hood as in the Leeds band? Supergroup those boys.

 

[woops]

yeah i posted their track in my 100 tunes thread

 

[woops]

the original mumblecore

 

[catalog]

One of them was gonna DJ a night I put on a few years ago, but then we got someone else. He turned up tho and was a good laugh. LS6 legends.

 

[version]

I've read a few times that younger people are going out raving less and less. I was also looking at who's on Rinse and NTS these days and I'd say it skews older. That being said, maybe looking to radio stations is a mistake in the first place, particularly radio stations that've been around for ten years or more and are playing music that's long been out of fashion.

 

[Leo]

I've read a few times that younger people are going out raving less and less. I was also looking at who's on Rinse and NTS these days and I'd say it skews older. That being said, maybe looking to radio stations is a mistake in the first place, particularly radio stations that've been around for ten years or more and are playing music that's long been out of fashion.

I haven't paid attention to rinse in ages, what type of stuff do they play?

 

[version]

I haven't paid attention to rinse in ages, what type of stuff do they play?

I'm in the same spot, so can't really comment. I just stuck it on last night and flicked through the schedule. They played a DMX tune, some Bicep-esque breakbeat thing and some techno.

 

[boxedjoy]

no wonder young people don't want to tune in then

 

[version]

It's interesting being confronted by the passage of time like that. My frame of reference is so narrow and dated I don't even know where to look these days. My first instinct's Rinse, NTS, RA, Fact, Hard Wax and Boomkat...

 

[boxedjoy]

there's a Facebook group called IOM, formerly "Identification Of Music Group", where people upload grainy videos of songs they want to know the name/artist of. It's 90% teenagers wanting to know what Patrick Topping and Hannah Wants are playing. It was great for giving me a sense of who was actually popular and not just written-about popular. But of course now everyone has been indoors for a year the only videos are from plague raves.

 

[version]

I've just stuck Rinse on and they're playing what sounds like a grime remix of The Specials - 'Gangsters'...

 

[version]

I may just be completely out of the loop, but I get the impression these publications and whatnot haven't really attempted to court a younger audience and instead just seem to have moved with their ageing current one. I get the same feeling looking at stuff like Boiler Room, Dekmantel and Freerotation. It feels like stuff for people in their late-20s and 30s. I suppose that's down to them being run by people even older than that and they'll just carry on in the background or fade away whilst something new pops up.

 

[boxedjoy]

if they're generally less likely to be out raving, what do a younger audience have to offer these publications?

 

[version]

if they're generally less likely to be out raving, what do a younger audience have to offer these publications?

Good point.

 

[version]

There's also the whole thing of something like half the clubs having closed, the state being more hostile than ever, noise complaints and so on.

When I pulled up that article on Hoxton the other day, I ended up reading a bunch of old pieces on Plastic People closing, Fabric being threatened, Matter closing with two years of opening, The Arches being threatened etc. Seems almost impossible to run a club these days, also not much fun to attend one.

UK's nightclubs suffer as young people seek less hedonistic pursuits

Games, food and even gyms are becoming more popular than hitting the dancefloor

www.theguardian.com

What happened to the great London nightclubs?

In the past 15 years, some of best-loved venues of the London club scene have shut their doors, for reasons ranging from crime to gentrification and Crossrail

www.theguardian.com

 

[boxedjoy]

my boyfriend worked at The Arches and the proposals they had in the wake of that poor girl dying were shocking. They genuinely wanted to turn the music off for five minutes every hour so people could calm down.

 

[version]

my boyfriend worked at The Arches and the proposals they had in the wake of that poor girl dying were shocking. They genuinely wanted to turn the music off for five minutes every hour so people could calm down.

That's the kind of thing where I can't work out if they're genuinely that clueless or they know exactly how unworkable it is and just want make the situation so difficult they have to pack it in.

 

[trilliam]

there's a Facebook group called IOM, formerly "Identification Of Music Group", where people upload grainy videos of songs they want to know the name/artist of. It's 90% teenagers wanting to know what Patrick Topping and Hannah Wants are playing. It was great for giving me a sense of who was actually popular and not just written-about popular. But of course now everyone has been indoors for a year the only videos are from plague raves.

Plague raves over here had all the young people's favourite DJs tbf, waff, michael bibi, solardo.. all those tech house guys RA, fact etc love to be snooty about. Mixmag embraces them because young people have money to spend on raving and buying music magazines, and because it'd be stupid to act like they don't exist.

Totally agree with the old people in music journalism writing to an increasingly aged and irrelevant audience point. The industry gets more niche and narrow every year, and while some young ppl probs still wanna write and read about music, it's gotta be shrinking. It's not a thing for them (melody maker, nme, the source, p4k the lore of the industry) like it was for us. They've got social media, spotify and reaction videos. They get info on their favourite artists from those artists instas or twitter's (I've made a burner acc on insta to do this and really it's the only way to go) and are fine with it.

Rinse isn't really a radio station anymore, it's like a festival or something. Everything's there but it's not cohesive.

 

[version]

I've never been raving, but I've always felt like I've missed out by not having done so and liked that it was going on because I like the music and it's encouraging to think people are able to enjoy themselves somewhere. There don't seem to be many places you can do that.

 

[version]

They've got social media, spotify and reaction videos. They get info on their favourite artists from those artists instas or twitter's (I've made a burner acc on insta to do this and really it's the only way to go) and are fine with it.

Yeah, this is partly why I'm so out of touch. I don't really use social media beyond checking Facebook messages every couple of weeks and you don't go to a mag or station or forum to find stuff, you just follow a load of artists on Twitter, Insta etc.

It doesn't help that if you go through YouTube then the algorithm completely scrambles time, so you're getting loads of old stuff tossed in with the new. The entire platform's on shuffle.