Everyone over 30 is racist

sufi

lala
I don't take issue with the racist part, since we're all human. it's the age element that doesn't make sense.
when i was a kid open racism was fairly common, i guess if you grew up after they abolished it in 1991 you may have different instincts, but I'm well beyond 30 so what would i know?
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
A complete and utter lack of responsibility is the optimal strategy in English politics atm too. The Tories have proven that. Never admit to or apologise for anything. The moment you do is the moment you open yourself up to taking serious damage.
I've never understood why so-called U-turns are so bad... about the only right decisiobs this government has ever made are on the occasions when they shamelessly switched tack after realising they'd massively fucked up (normally in a PR sense)... they got slated for it of course but why persist when you know you're wrong?
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
You don’t get a health plan at 30. 50, on the other hand (or approaching it), is swimming in cheap funerals and ads about how not to inconvenience your kin when you drop. Look how happy June is about dying asap

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As there’s no promise of even getting to 2022, what was the question again? Over-30 racists

Tbh, it’s a bit like when Time donated a cover issue to anyone under 20-25 (I forget the exact reference) during peak counterculture, ie arbitrary and too coveting of youth equating to wisdom, like @luka complaining about 40 year olds at orgies “ewwww gross grandad“

Britain was monstrously racist growing up. The situation now doesn’t really compare, even if the ugliness is still present. A complex question and one I don’t think I’ve answered
 

version

Well-known member
I've never understood why so-called U-turns are so bad... about the only right decisiobs this government has ever made are on the occasions when they shamelessly switched tack after realising they'd massively fucked up (normally in a PR sense)... they got slated for it of course but why persist when you know you're wrong?
Because a lot of the stuff they're wrong about is the stuff they and their voters want.
 
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IdleRich

IdleRich
But they are criticised purely for changing their minds.... for U-turning as though that is in itself fundamentally wrong. I think that is a dangerous idea.
 

version

Well-known member
... but I think it's quite a leap to equate being a dick to trans people to enjoying a bacon roll.
That wasn't what I was doing. The point I was making was that both not thinking about pronouns and eating meat are things a lot of people take for granted. I wasn't talking about the people who are consciously hostile to trans people. I was talking about the people who've never thought about it and who take being made aware of it as an affront.
 

version

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But they are criticised purely for changing their minds.... for U-turning as though that is in itself fundamentally wrong. I think that is a dangerous idea.
Yeah, I imagine it's down to the electorate demanding security. They don't want to feel their leaders might not be entirely sure what they're doing.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
And the result is that many of our "leaders" stick to stupid things way past the point that they themselves know it's wrong just to appear resolute.
 

Leo

Well-known member
I've never understood why so-called U-turns are so bad... about the only right decisiobs this government has ever made are on the occasions when they shamelessly switched tack after realising they'd massively fucked up (normally in a PR sense)... they got slated for it of course but why persist when you know you're wrong?

part of it is also this macho trump-like thing of never admitting to be wrong. in their minds, it's a sign of weakness. when you're wrong, double down on it, and make shit up to support your argument. and then when if it comes to the point where that's not working, gaslight them and pretend you never said/did it.
 

version

Well-known member
when i was a kid open racism was fairly common, i guess if you grew up after they abolished it in 1991 you may have different instincts, but I'm well beyond 30 so what would i know?
I was born in the 90s and there's always been racism. I guess open racism in the sense of the kind of shit you'd expect from a BNP supporter wasn't as common, but there was a lot of "ironic", South Park-style racist humour and that's still a huge thing online, in gaming communities etc.
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
part of it is also this macho trump-like thing of never admitting to be wrong. in their minds, it's a sign of weakness. when you're wrong, double down on it, and make shit up to support your argument. and then when if it comes to the point where that's not working, gaslight them and pretend you never said/did it.

Make graphs, lots of graphs

Anti-Semitic crap heard around my wife and in-laws has come from teenagers to pensioners a handful of times, but none of it comes close to the shit hurled at my Dad and us in the 70's and 80's. People would go off, 0-60, in an eye-blink. You couldn't always see it coming though. Buses, a half-heard mutter, then the old man up and swedging. "We gorra fookin bomber ave weh?", "Bobby fookin Sands coonts", "why don't you fuck off and peel me chips", endless confrontations compounded by Celtic/republic bobble hats/t-shirts. You'd never wear those visiting family in London

People are more sly these days
 

Leo

Well-known member
I was born in the 90s and there's always been racism. I guess open racism in the sense of the kind of shit you'd expect from a BNP supporter wasn't as common, but there was a lot of "ironic", South Park-style racist humour and that's still a huge thing online, in gaming communities etc.

there always been racism, period. and In all likelihood worst in the past, when it was just the accepted way of life and not even something the average person would notice or get upset about. maybe worse in the US, with separate water fountains and seating for blacks, etc. the latest immigrant group was always shit on, especially by the previous immigrant group who now had someone below them to kick.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Well, yesterday i got this website cancelled actually https://whiteracialidentity.net/ after 3 months of badgering wordpress.com - quite gratified about that :)
How about you? i fear that you are still languishing in racist denial
Ok, well done on that - and I mean it! That sounds like a good bit of anti-racism, and it's one more racist website than I've had taken down.

But is failing to have a racist website taken down the same thing as being racist?
 

Benny Bunter

Well-known member
I reckon this woman I discovered just recently on Twitter has a lot of interesting things to say on this topic

 
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