the emperor’s new clothes

IdleRich

IdleRich
Wait a minute Juliet Bravo and Bergerac weren't even comedies were they?
In fact.... who the hell was the person who would only have sex with someone if they could prove convincingly that they were a genuine fan of Juliet Bravo?
 

jenks

thread death
The Sweeney is my ultimate 70s London time machine. It (and the Tour coverage) justify the existence of ITV 4 and its donkey sanctuary adverts.
 

martin

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Maybe it's just nostalgic bullshit, or an indication of how alienated I feel in 2021, but I kind of miss those Hoxton/Shoreditch "five electroclash acts in the back of a pub" nights.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Maybe it's just nostalgic bullshit, or an indication of how alienated I feel in 2021, but I kind of miss those Hoxton/Shoreditch "five electroclash acts in the back of a pub" nights.
 

catalog

Well-known member
Ilyas = Elias?
Jibrail = Gabriel
Yacub = Jacob

That's all I can think of without looking it up.
My electrician has just informed me that Job in Christianity is Shoaib in Islam. Actually he got it wrong, i looked it up just now. Job is Ayub. And Shoaib grafts onto Jethro, sometimes.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
I mean I like abstract bleeps and bloops as much as the next person, but I have no insight at all into the thought process that goes "after precisely this bleep, let's have precisely that bloop, and then a sort of swooshy, smushy sound made by mixing the spectral signatures of the two sounds together, only just for a twentieth of a second before we introduce the next blorp". I can't distinguish it from randomness. I made a short piece a week or so ago which actually was entirely random, and found it pleasing, but it also felt like I was cheating somehow.


I am listening to your music now my good man. the issue is that it sounds very much shoegazetronica, very non-random in fact. it is far too musical in the 90s alt rock sense. You are coming from a slowdive lineage, hence the somber tonalities, and not originating from the school of the Curtis Mantronic. You must sample yourself and develop your ideas much faster, that is to say, you must be moving at a much rapid speed of processing the musical data you are fed! Boredom is an enemy, as the situationists proclaimed.
 
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thirdform

pass the sick bucket
For instance the drum sounds you use in your drum circle track are absolutely diabolical! Even if the rest of the track is very nice indeed. in such a tune you must never use the constructed rock drum kit but use loads of synthesised timbales, kongas, pitched voice samples, harsh discordant claps, reverbed, darbuka samples, echo-ing cymbals. You must treat your entire track as percussion, even its melodic context must exist heterophonically. I would recommend you listen to some ottoman classical music to see this, but in the electronic sense this track I made with @bassnation should induct you into the sufi brotherhood.

 
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thirdform

pass the sick bucket
you shall never hear the kitschy trance harmonies that are being employed in Springer thangs in the best of Autechre's works. Do not get me wrong, I find it charming. But I need to be drinking with somerset students to really emotionally connect with it.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
I am big into spectre lunair I. You should remain on this unearthly drone path. Tap into the psychotic sex bomb demon inside of you.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
For instance the drum sounds you use in your drum circle track are absolutely diabolical! Even if the rest of the track is very nice indeed. in such a tune you must never use the constructed rock drum kit but use loads of synthesised timbales, kongas, pitched voice samples, harsh discordant claps, reverbed, darbuka samples, echo-ing cymbals. You must treat your entire track as percussion, even its melodic context must exist heterophonically. I would recommend you listen to some ottoman classical music to see this, but in the electronic sense this track I made with @bassnation should induct you into the sufi brotherhood.



@bassbeyondreason not bassnation, lol. no idea how that happened.
 

poetix

we murder to dissect
Yeah, I don’t think anyone regards Melda MDrummer as cutting-edge sonics. Shoegazeatronica seems a decent characterisation of those tunes in both intent and execution. Create a mood (sombre, wistful) and loiter there. And Somerset/Herefordshire is of course my spiritual home.

I started playing around with Ableton recently, and found it shortened the path to making very percussion-oriented music impressively. Get yourself a good grab-bag of samples and it’s ridiculously easy to start chopping them about and arranging them into sequenced patterns. Interesting feedback loop - it’s a tool that was clearly developed to make things EDM musicians were doing arduously by hand much easier, and has now become a performance instrument in its own right.
 

sus

Well-known member
in college i had a professor who was insistent upon anonymous grading (where the grader doesn't know who wrote the essay until after they give it a score). his thinking was that, in writing, ambiguities or "gaps" inevitably arise--and how the reader/grader fills in those gaps often depends on their assumptions about the writer. professors make different interpretive and evaluative assumptions about a passage depending on whether they think the student who wrote it generally is a bit slow or is brilliant. personally, i always had the suspicion that my essay grades depended as much on the teacher's idea of me as on what i actually wrote.

essentially the same observation is brought up in that borges story "Pierre Menard, Author of Don Quixote". he talks about how the same sentence reads differently depending on what era and aesthetic context we think the author worked in.

so if you look at a bunch of wild brushstrokes or paint splatters you'll interpret them differently depending on whether you think the artist was a highly skilled yet boundary pushing iconoclast... or a chimp eating bananas. returning to picasso, "It took me four years to paint like Raphael, but a lifetime to paint like a child." is easily the best self promotional statement of all time in light of this dynamic.
write about this on blog pls
 
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