Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Perhaps quirky is the closest cishet comes to queer.

Mulaney can be read as the penetration of the WASP mainstream by quirk.

Also Bill Hader, Fred Armisen, Kristen Wiig. Somehow I overlooked that whole crowd.
 

woops

is not like other people
well if i had to comment i'd say that the french look at "quirk" as something so un-French it becomes fascinating for them. Benny Hill is famously massive in France, for example.

Rivette, Godard, Rohmer are not quirky in the slightest. They're as French as can be.
 

luka

Well-known member
well if i had to comment i'd say that the french look at "quirk" as something so un-French it becomes fascinating for them. Benny Hill is famously massive in France, for example.

Rivette, Godard, Rohmer are not quirky in the slightest. They're as French as can be.
tati mostly we are talking about but also amelie etc
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
As opposed to transgender. Cis means something like "not having crossed a threshold" whereas trans means across some threshold.

Cispontine: on this side of the bridge.

Transpontine: on that side of the bridge.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
probably despised by some Dissensus members, Balkan quirky. Brass instruments, poultry, mud, Roma, nutters, psychics, Borat stole the music from the first here


Oh yes, I've seen Underground. I think @IdleRich made a thread about eastern european films and mentioned him, said how he always found a way to shoehorn his grating music into his films.

That said, I enjoyed Underground.
 

woops

is not like other people
are you aware of the Oulipian use of the term clinamen, stan?

Clinamen. Lucretius' Latin for the Greek klesis, "a bending".
Empedocles (c.490-430 B.C.) uses the term to designate the spontaneous deviation that allows atoms falling in otherwise parallel lines to encounter one another and thus create matter; Lucretius extended the meaning of the word to include free choice. For Oulipians, the clinamen is a deviation from the strict consequences of a restriction. It is often justified on aesthetic grounds: resorting to it improves the results. But there is a binding condition for its use: the exceptional freedom afforded by a clinamen can only be taken on the condition that following the initial rule is still possible. In other words, the clinamen can only be used if it isn't needed.
[...] The clinamen was brought to the attention of Pataphysicians and Oulipians alike through the agency of Alfred Jarry, who rescued this obscure principle of classical philosophy and made it a central tenet of his "science of exceptions", 'Pataphysics.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
I would say Edgar Wright qualifies as quirky, especially in technique. I've been meaning to rewatch some of his.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
are you aware of the Oulipian use of the term clinamen, stan?

Clinamen. Lucretius' Latin for the Greek klesis, "a bending".
Empedocles (c.490-430 B.C.) uses the term to designate the spontaneous deviation that allows atoms falling in otherwise parallel lines to encounter one another and thus create matter; Lucretius extended the meaning of the word to include free choice. For Oulipians, the clinamen is a deviation from the strict consequences of a restriction. It is often justified on aesthetic grounds: resorting to it improves the results. But there is a binding condition for its use: the exceptional freedom afforded by a clinamen can only be taken on the condition that following the initial rule is still possible. In other words, the clinamen can only be used if it isn't needed.
[...] The clinamen was brought to the attention of Pataphysicians and Oulipians alike through the agency of Alfred Jarry, who rescued this obscure principle of classical philosophy and made it a central tenet of his "science of exceptions", 'Pataphysics.
Interesting, no I didn't. Also haven;'t heard of Empedocles. Thought it was maybe Democritus by way of Lucretius.

But yeah I haven't given due diligence to Oulipo, but thats a great conception of clinamen, that deviation is only deviation so long as the rule is still an option.
 
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