21st Century Methods for Democracy

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
I wouldn’t be so sure. Rather, I’m only in the early stages of delivering the planet unto its thermodynamic salvation, with communitarian capitalism as the means.
 

sufi

lala
Fret not my friend, for the gulag you’ll be sent to will not be using ranked choice voting
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Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Just did a 5-hour twitter space with Forward Party, myself representing Lobby3, and I'm starting to get a better sense of what they are all about.

They seem to be positioning themselves as a non-prescriptive platform in terms of policy positions. That is, instead of enforcing policy positions on their candidates, they give their candidates/members more flexibility in terms of individual policy positions.

This arose in some confusion in the space, with audience members asking questions about FP's "lack" of policy positions, or their ostensible "unwillingness" to take a stance on anything. They do take some platform-wide stances, such as being in favor of ranked choice voting, being in favor of a variety of parties, and being against extremist and uncompromising views, but overall they seem to be engineering the Forward platform as a platform for non-partisans and non-conformists.

Personally I don't get the sense that the Forward Party is taking this route in light of the dialectical method, but epistemologically it is very dialectical as a platform. Radical centrism, pluralistic, against obstinate one-sidedness.

FP (even calling it a party seems like something of a misnomer) also seems to generally be in favor of blockchain-based voting, perhaps the most interesting application of the tech. They have implicitly endorsed January Walker, an HoR candidate from Utah's fourth district who is in favor of blockchain as a way to increase public accountability of government spending.

She co-hosted the space with us, and was very excited to hear about Lobby3's work regarding zero-knowledge blockchain-based ID. A development team called Holonym is building it, and Lobby3 is helping fund it, with myself acting in the capacity of a project manager.

She affirmed what I've suspected for a while: that what we are building is years ahead of the cognitive apprehension of most legislators across this country, save for perhaps a handful of savvy young staffers.

What I proposed, as still a half-baked albeit totally realistic prospect, is using a blockchain-based petitioning platform (called Kernel, still at an early stage) in conjunction with the zkID, to propose legislation in standard format (sections, subsections, clauses, subclauses, etc), and to itemize every provision and subject it to direct democracy.

Imagine having a legislative feedback process where every provision of a given bill has a popular vote associated with it, and the actual voting infrastructure is censorship-resistant, privacy-respecting, and inherits the security of cutting-edge cryptography - which is being defensively engineered with quantum attacks in mind.


Still seems like we are years ahead of this properly dawning on the mainstream media as a potentially paradigm shifting movement for democracy.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
The question is whether rapid technological open-source progress can sufficiently compete with incumbent oligarchs who have no idea what we're doing.

Here is the romantic, somewhat promethean question: at what point of techno-epistemic asymmetry does the scale tilt in our favor? My whole modular generalist program was chiefly engineered around honing my ability to rapidly accrue an operational literacy in any given area of technical discourse.

And we'll also see if this approach to harnessing a "liberal will to power" as I call it, is as sound as I think it is. That is to ask, can a mind reach such heights of sublime consciousness while still retaining a firm footing in humility and compassion?
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Certainly no easy task, and I do sense a need to additionally fortify such instincts toward humility and compassion, as otherwise the hyperintellectual ascension may predispose one toward a general disregard of the average intellect, which of course is not democracy, but rather a sort of elitist noocracy.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Here is the romantic, somewhat promethean question: at what point of techno-epistemic asymmetry does the scale tilt in our favor? My whole modular generalist program was chiefly engineered around honing my ability to rapidly accrue an operational literacy in any given area of technical discourse.
Yes absolutely, I think that Romeo asked something similar of Juliet in act 3 scene 4 of the famous tragic romance that bears their name - at the time it brought a lump to my throat and a tear to my eye I don't mind admitting.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Sorry, cheapshot of the worst kind I know... I couldn't resist though. Please do carry on, don't let my ignorance derail your train of thought.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Is it ERC based? We have a whole GUI for using ERC tooling
Yeah right now Lobby3 uses erc721 membership tokens. We've used Wonder a little bit for workflow management, and we just got connected with the guys at Mural.xyz, but as I've confessed to them, Lobby3 doesn't really have many task-based activities for community members to contribute. It's super amorphous at this stage.

PubDAO on the other hand has been using Dework, and we actually plan on having a real use case for regular task-based contributions.

Is Commonwealth in the vein of these platforms, or are you guys doing something else?
 

sus

Well-known member
Yeah right now Lobby3 uses erc721 membership tokens. We've used Wonder a little bit for workflow management, and we just got connected with the guys at Mural.xyz, but as I've confessed to them, Lobby3 doesn't really have many task-based activities for community members to contribute. It's super amorphous at this stage.

PubDAO on the other hand has been using Dework, and we actually plan on having a real use case for regular task-based contributions.

Is Commonwealth in the vein of these platforms, or are you guys doing something else?
It's a discussion forum with web3 integration basically. On-chain polling UX, address-based accounts, governance systems, Crowdfund tools, etch
 
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