Science

[Clinamenic]

And I think anyone has it within them, just very few of us manage ever to secure even a momentary footing, yet alone a stride.

 

[Clinamenic]

Yet alone a programmatization of the stride, a suitably ambitious task.

 

[Clinamenic]

But where else is extropy bound for, if not such excellence?

 

[WashYourHands]

Luka will be reading that with the same expression on his face that Dougal has when Ted is trying to explain that these cows are small, while those cows are far away.

you know Orangemen view all priests as agents of papish witchcraft

 

[luka]

you know Orangemen view all priests as agents of papish witchcraft

my mum is currently very upset cos my sister has had a child with a Flannery, ie, a catholic thus corrupting the bloodline. she wont admit shes upset, though i keep goading her about it, instead her hostility is expressed towards the name the child has been given, an irish name, evelyn. all very funny and i keep winding everyone up about it needless to say

 

[Mr. Tea]

my mum is currently very upset cos my sister has had a child with a Flannery, ie, a catholic thus corrupting the bloodline.

A MUDBLOOD!!!

 

[sufi]

Rationality and Objectivity, or The Gods of Data Science and Technology​

In the essay “The Persistence of Vision’’, scholar Donna Haraway writes that there is a belief or ideology within our society that the study of science is inherently objective and progressive. Haraway describes this belief as an example of the “god-trick”, in which science is attempting to rise to the detached all-seeing eye that is God. Critiquing the philosophical beliefs of Enlightenment thinkers, Haraway draws parallels between the investment in rationality and the privileging of a white male subjectivity.

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[Mr. Tea]

I wonder if Haraway is aware that Arab and Persian thinkers were using the scientific method centuries before anyone in Europe had heard of it? Doubt it. You always get this schtick from people who think "science" was invented by Isaac Newton in 1670.

There's nobody more Eurocentric than people who love to slag things off for being "Eurocentric".

 

[Clinamenic]

Even if a totalizing scientific perspective isn't purely an artifact of Europe, it arguably is a problem that can still be avoided by way of some perspectival maneuvering.

Even listening to some really sharp experts in this or that topic give seminars, they way they describe the universe betrays, to me, a conflation of map with territory.

But then again, you could argue its more a matter of belief, whether the universe itself is parameterized by the laws we articulate, or whether our conception of the universe just systematically approximates the universe under our own cognitive modal constraints. The latter can be understood as a sort of cognitive assimilation, a coming-into-oneself of cosmic awareness if you will.

I think it's easier to accept scientific change if the latter perspective is taken, rather than feeling like you have to admit you/we were "wrong" about the way the universe is, which strikes me as a symptom of a premature science, suffering from delusions of closure and perfection.

If one thinks of science as a net improving system for [approximately] accounting for the universe, then it automatically follows that there will always be blind spots, pain points, etc.

edit: bracketed text

 

[Clinamenic]

In Data we Trust

 

[luka]

 

[version]

Saw someone tweet about this and had to check it was real,

Why the Term 'JEDI' Is Problematic for Describing Programs That Promote Justice, Equity, Diversity and Inclusion

They’re meant to be heroes within the Star Wars universe, but the Jedi are inappropriate symbols for justice work

www.scientificamerican.com

The Jedi are inappropriate mascots for social justice. Although they’re ostensibly heroes within the Star Wars universe, the Jedi are inappropriate symbols for justice work. They are a religious order of intergalactic police-monks, prone to (white) saviorism and toxically masculine approaches to conflict resolution (violent duels with phallic lightsabers, gaslighting by means of “Jedi mind tricks,” etc.).

Surely this is parody or some sort of Sokal situation?

 

[luka]

its amazing how clever i am

 

[Clinamenic]

I can’t tell if this is serious or not. I can say, however, that I personally have been in such a mindspace as to issue such discourse seriously, but I don’t think I ever took it that far.

I do think it is important to figure out how to disarm and rehabilitate this kind of talk without denouncing the premise of inequality and system-conducive discrimination (e.g redlining).

 

[luka]

I can’t tell if this is serious or not. I can say, however, that I personally have been in such a mindspace as to issue such discourse seriously, but I don’t think I ever took it that far.

I do think it is important to figure out how to disarm and rehabilitate this kind of talk without denouncing the premise of inequality and system-conducive discrimination (e.g redlining).

is what serious?

 

[Clinamenic]

That post about how the Jedi are toxic

 

[luka]

That post about how the Jedi are toxic

will you be masturbating tonight Stan? if so would you consider live tweeting the process?

 

[Clinamenic]

will you be masturbating tonight Stan? if so would you consider live tweeting the process?

No; and if so I would not.

 

[Clinamenic]

And really I doubt I am sufficiently ambidextrous to manage such a task.

 

[luka]

And really I doubt I am sufficiently ambidextrous to manage such a request.

voice to text program?