IdleRich

IdleRich
Anyway, serious question, why isn't squash in the Olympics when tennis, table tennis, badminton and millions of joke sports (see my post from yesterday or whenever it was) are?
I am not sure if formally laid out the requirements of a non-joke sport but I would say something like the following

a) It is played in several countries by quite a few people - it doesn't have to be every country and be hugely popular, but I have a problem with saying that someone is officially the best in the world at something if 99.9 percent of the world have not had a chance to play it or, in fact, have even heard of it
b) Similarly it has to be relatively accessible in terms of what you need to play it - eg if you need to have own a dancing horse or a specific type of yacht or similar to take part in the sport and it thus restricts access to rich people from rich countries, it doesn't meet the Olympian ethos for me.
c) It has to be physically demanding and skillful.
d) It should not require a judge to decide who won. We can see who ran faster or threw that thing further, it's objective - sports that rely on judges going "I rate that twirl at 6.7 and the other one at 6.6" are officially stupid

So, I think that squash is a non-joke sport and it would make sense to put it in there in place of tennis - instead of giving even more exposure to a load of multi-millionaire tennis players who already have at least four higher priority events in the calendar and who are not really gonna get hugely worked up about this, why not create a huge boost for a smaller, underfunded but actually really good sport?
In general I don't see that the Olympics much helps major sports such as football or tennis, and neither do those sports contribute much to the Olympics as their players are part of a different system, earn way more money than the average Olympian and care more about other prizes. Whereas, on the other hand, minority sports such as basketball or squash (potentially) have the opposite, mutually beneficial, relationship to the tournament.
But still they don't bloody listen.
 

chava

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The suggestion is if they are using performance enhancing substances they are more likely to be things related to enhancing concentration rather than EPO etc
I think though despite general concerns, the peloton is probably as clean as it’s ever been. Genuinely hard sport - obviously I’ve a vested interest as it’s something both me and one of my sons compete in - that combination of physical toughness, strategy, decisiveness and incredible skill is hard to match.
And danger, not to forget. I must admit I would have second thoughts if my son (or my daughter, even) decided to take up cycling because of his dads stupid obsession.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
Come on. Cavendish vs Merckx. It's just ridiculous. In a couple of years Cav will be another sprinter who is forgotten by everyone by the hardest cycling fan. And those sprinters who can't really do anything else (as in winning classics etc) should just stay on the track. He's just good on telly, like Cipollini was.
So basically you agree with what i said here?
Of course, everyone knows that Merckx was better in that he was a proper tour rider and winner, whereas Cav is a specialist who is really really good at one particular aspect of the race and he's concentrated on that to win loads of stages without ever being in contention for the race itself. But, precisely cos everyone knows it, that's exactly why he doesn't need to spell it out for everyone like some kind of needy five year old demanding everyone acknowledge that HE won the egg and spoon race at the school sports day... maybe his brain is fucked from whatever primitive cocktail of amphetamines he used to win all those yellow jerseys and suchlike.
My point was not that Cavendish is somehow as good as Merckx, I was just saying it was funny that Merckx seemed so childishly bitter, and also that his bitterness was funny precisely BECAUSE there is no comparison between their levels and achievements.
 

jenks

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And danger, not to forget. I must admit I would have second thoughts if my son (or my daughter, even) decided to take up cycling because of his dads stupid obsession.
Cheers - I’m sure that didn’t mean to come out sounding the way it has. Says cycling obsessive father of rather good cycling son.
 

jenks

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So basically you agree with what i said here?

My point was not that Cavendish is somehow as good as Merckx, I was just saying it was funny that Merckx seemed so childishly bitter, and also that his bitterness was funny precisely BECAUSE there is no comparison between their levels and achievements.
I think Cav is in the pantheon now but Eddy is up with the gods of Coppi, Bartali and Hinault
 

Leo

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Maybe they should add an Olympic Drinking competition. The lads would be favorites to bring home the Gold but I might put my money on the Fins and Russians.
 
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william_kent

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I was just checking if Pole Dancing was now an Olympic sport - there were rumours a few years ago that is was being considered for inclusion. Apparently not, but Breakdancing has been accepted and will be featured at the Paris 2024 Olympics - I predict that Japan will win gold.
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
Kids have been transfixed by the bmx races and got drawn in by cheering having lunch

It’s truly surreal. The little bikes, peddling like fuck, different techniques to rolling courses (micro hills?). Googled Andy Ruffell as a comparison but wish I hadn’t

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luka

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the track and field is the glamour stuff but part of the full experience is sitting through womens judo and endless swimming events etc
i feel sad i havent had a chance to catch any of it this year
 

luka

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@IdleRich
Hello world! Squash, then. It is, from where I’m sitting, the one glaring omission from the Olympic sporting roster, and there’s absolutely no logical explanation for it. Sure, the sport is currently dominated by one nation (Egypt), but the latest PSA rankings for men and women also include in their top 20s athletes from France, Great Britain, Australia, India, Belgium, Canada, Peru, Colombia and Mexico. It is played all around the world, and the Olympics would instantly become the pinnacle. It is played in, for example, the Commonwealth Games and the Asian Games without looking out of place.


It came this close to being included for London 2012, when the IOC picked it and karate from a shortlist of five (also including golf, roller skating and rugby sevens) to go to a final ballot, only for neither to get the required votes. Then golf and rugby sevens got approved to join the list in 2016, and climbing and skateboarding got the thumbs up for 2020, and squash kept getting ignored. Here’s a good piece from the squash player James Willstrop that followed that decision:
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I probably read that at the time. Five years later splurged it out almost verbatim when the confluence of my playing squash and Olympics being on occurred.
 

Corpsey

bandz ahoy
Not watching this anymore.

I find it as hard to sit down and watch sport as others to sit down and read the complete works of WB Yeats.
 
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