did 'the jam' have good lyrics'

[version]

This stuff's so alien to me. Nobody really gave a shit what music you were into when I was growing up. You might get called a chav or a mosher, but there wasn't this sense of rivalry or warring factions that comes across when I hear from older people.

 

[martin]

This stuff's so alien to me. Nobody really gave a shit what music you were into when I was growing up. You might get called a chav or a mosher, but there wasn't this sense of rivalry or warring factions that comes across when I hear from older people.

Yeah, it's a shame. Would much rather watch drill gangs vs furries than the Olympics BMX racing.

 

[Leo]

I'm sure it happened here but not as prevalent, or violent. granted, we had Disco Demolition Night....

 

[martin]

Suck on this, Weller.

 

[version]

I'm sure it happened here but not as prevalent, or violent. granted, we had Disco Demolition Night....

Imagine hating disco. Weirdos.

 

[Leo]

Imagine hating disco. Weirdos.

I know, right? in this particular instance, which happened in Chicago, it was also very much a racial thing: knucklehead white rockers versus black/gay disco.

 

[martin]

I'm sure it happened here but not as prevalent, or violent. granted, we had Disco Demolition Night...."

"Disco records were hurled like frisbees"

I agree with Version - not liking disco is just weird and wrong. But I love the fact some people disliked it enough to mount an all-out pitch invasion. Better than a snarky Pitchfork review, anyway.

Meanwhile, in the UK, we had spotty herberts hollering "STUFF DISCO UP YOUR ARSE!" like it was a matter of life and death

 

[luka]

remember George Clinton hated disco too. it wasnt at all just white knuckleheads vs black sophisticates. far from it,

 

[luka]

people simplify this stuff when they assume it only operates along a racial divide. me and third have chatted about this.
there are all sorts of aesthetic/value divides which have very little to do with race. in the case of disco one could be characterized
as synthetic/organic.

and one of the reasons disco becomes more fashionable (although as third notes it never had to be rehabilitated here) is the lineage it begets

 

[luka]

How did you feel about disco, which started peaking commercially just as P-Funk went into its Eighties chart slide?
To me, disco was like fucking with one stroke. You could phone that shit in. Disco itself was funk. But all they did was take one funk beat and sanitize it to no end. It’s irritating. I loved Donna Summer’s records. But too much of it. . . The slogan behind “(Not Just) Knee Deep” was, “Let’s rescue dance music from the blahs.”

 

[martin]

remember George Clinton hated disco too. it wasnt at all just white knuckleheads vs black sophisticates. far from it,

Yeah, quite a few of the rastas too.

 

[william_kent]

 

[Slothrop]

 

[craner]

Wasn't there an interview with Chuck D where he slagged off Chicago house as "music for gays"?

 

[craner]

Meanwhile, Weller's idea of an acceptable house track was 'Promised Land' by Joe Smooth.

 

[luka]

probably. i mean, it was music for gays. but i'd be just as wary of characterising these divides as being fundamentally about homophobia as i would be about characterising them as racism. i think its more interesting than that and goes deeper.

 

[craner]

I think he got a lot of shit about it at the time. I think it was @blissblogger who interviewed him, I wonder what his opinion is now.

 

[Benny Bunter]

I think he got a lot of shit about it at the time. I think it was @blissblogger who interviewed him, I wonder what his opinion is now.

It's in Energy Flash. He said it was for gays and "the most artifical shit I've ever heard" IIRC

 

[Benny Bunter]

But I think in other interviews he talked about liking disco at the time for the djing aspect of it.

 

[luka]

It's in Energy Flash. He said it was for gays and "the most artifical shit I've ever heard" IIRC

and he was correct on both counts.