IdleRich
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What is this weird affectation with writing "could of"?
Women who can ROCK
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luka
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in the neon screams tribune interview https://tribunemag.co.uk/2021/08/the-musical-future-has-not-been-cancelled
the interviewer asks why kit doesnt talk about any women, which is a trite and disegenuous gotcha question but part
of the answer is that with some music what you are attracted to is specifically the masculine aspects, supply your own
scare quotes as necessary of course. rock never really appealed to me because the image of masculinity it presented
seemed risible
the interviewer asks why kit doesnt talk about any women, which is a trite and disegenuous gotcha question but part
of the answer is that with some music what you are attracted to is specifically the masculine aspects, supply your own
scare quotes as necessary of course. rock never really appealed to me because the image of masculinity it presented
seemed risible
sus
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Cmon Thirdform, I appreciate a good raki tavern as much as anyone—when they bring the nice lil melon platters out, the bottles of water so everyone can mix their raki differently—but be a pluralist with us
sus
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Note that everything I posted is not women trying to be masculine but like, "Wall of Feeling"—Phil Spector x country ballad or something.
Actually, I should've named this thread "Wall of Feeling," but alas
sus
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Totally forgot about Torres but she is definitely in the mix.
Where should I start with Charly Bliss?
subvert47
I don't fight, I run away
Here's some women not trying to be masculine:
And here's some more music they make while not trying to be masculine:
But right, you didn't mean "rock" at all, you meant "wet".
Pluralism is for bourgeois humanists.
Coming from Tribune Mag, yes, it's a trite and disengenuous question. But me and Web eschatology have framed that question in other ways, why not works which are more thoughtful, less direct, less based on the immediate pleasure principle. I think it's a fair cop and I slightly resent that the book doesn't seemed to have tackled it. I mean by all means inflame the acid communism/mark fisher crowd cos for the love of all things holy Burial needs to be gotten over, but I think, inherently its a good, dialectical question.
Of course the book cannot be everything for everyone and I appreciate that. But the central premise I find hard to logically derive. To say the future is not cancelled, or that there is a creative destruction, is to implicitly argue that music is the best its ever been. Yet I don't think even the book is arguing that, merely that the future has been humanised. But capitalism lives not by creative destruction, but destructing the already dead. This is my problem with the likes of Blackdown seeing echoes of jungle in UK drill, they're basically thinking about the music external to the music itself. How much does the future paradigm even make sense in that context.
And as I've always said, the future in music rarely has to do with technical innovation excepting early electronic music. It's always an imaginary to do with science fiction even when it rejects bladerunner, If it's not Bladerunner it's robocop, if it's not robocop its pastoralism and ethnic kitsch. i do not see how you can reject that, which in a way i think is the correct move, and yet still say the future is not cancelled, as if it ever needed to be cancelled rather than that mode of thought reflected a specific millennial zeitgeist which future generations cannot relate to.
And as I've always said, the future in music rarely has to do with technical innovation excepting early electronic music. It's always an imaginary to do with science fiction even when it rejects bladerunner, If it's not Bladerunner it's robocop, if it's not robocop its pastoralism and ethnic kitsch. i do not see how you can reject that, which in a way i think is the correct move, and yet still say the future is not cancelled, as if it ever needed to be cancelled rather than that mode of thought reflected a specific millennial zeitgeist which future generations cannot relate to.
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sus
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You've been around a loooooong time so I'm not 100% sure what you're saying, but I will defer to the meaning regardless.
sus
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OK I take it back raki taverns fucking blowwwww what kind of fruity perverts are so obsessed with licorice they turn it into an alcoholic beverage and drink it with sweet melon
There is no such thing as a sexual relationship - Jacques Lacan.
aniseed.
And no, you drink it with ayran if you know whats good for you, and no melon, proper paneer.
The correct move here is to argue that woman can only be defined in relation to man. That's how to confuse the tribune lot. I.E: accuse them of being misogynists by squeezing women into a diversity box of their own making.
Fine. Why'd you invent budweiser then. A beer which tastes like mineral water? which kind of civilised aristocratic nonces would even consider such an idea to be a good thing?
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lil baby perverts suckling from the cow tits, fermented milk with all the bacteria