catalog

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Weber talks about the "iron cage of bureaucracy". He's the other main sociology founding father, with the alternative theory to marx. There's no revolution, everyone just gets more and more "disenchanted" as we pursue rationalisation. He was much more right, but it's a less sexy theory.
 

catalog

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He used to suffer from terrible headaches cos of all the constant disenchantment and had to take himself off to spas alot towards the end of his life.
 

Mr. Tea

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He used to suffer from terrible headaches cos of all the constant disenchantment and had to take himself off to spas alot towards the end of his life.
Sounds like he could have used some radical re-enchantment. Watched The Princess Bride and The Never-Ending Story back to back. Or at least a couple of Wes Anderson films.
 

catalog

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Actually some of the current discussions on the leader board thread, as well as talks we've had elsewhere, whilst obviously tongue in cheek, illustrate a weberian sociology quite well.

There's a drive towards efficiency, making the ratio of posts:reactions closer to 1. The system starts to teach you how to behave. That is literally the iron cage.
 

luka

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They just want to be immune from criticism. It's the classic bully's thing of I bet you wouldn't dare say it to my face
 

version

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Also, as people keep pointing out on Twitter, anonymity clearly isn't the issue as there are plenty of people both on there and on Facebook posting horrendous shit under their own name.
 

version

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There's also the problem of ending anonymity outing activists, whistleblowers, LGBTQ people etc and opening them up to targeted abuse, stalking and so on.

One of the responses is that they just want to make it so that social media companies and the police and whoever can find someone if they do something wrong, but they can already do that... The whole thing just sounds like complete bullshit and yet another power grab.
 

Clinamenic

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Yeah the anonymity thing doesn’t generalize to an across the board threat.

Same pseudo-reasoning behind some of the resistance to crypto.
 

version

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An ordinary person won't be afforded the same protection as an MP either. You only need to get on the wrong side of one nutter when your details are public to end up being terrorised. There's a reason doxxing's frowned upon.
 

Clinamenic

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One of the responses is that they just want to make it so that social media companies and the police and whoever can find someone if they do something wrong, but they can already do that... The whole thing just sounds like complete bullshit and yet another power grab.
Id agree in general, but re: crypto it does seem significantly harder to track down participants in illicit commerce.

I say this not to incite my own monomania, but because anonymity is a critical issue in blockchain, and blockchain is poised to punctuate the internet in ubiquitous and quotidian ways.
 

version

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I'm not talking about crypto. I'm talking about ending anonymity on social media or online in general.
 

Clinamenic

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Blockchain generalizes beyond crypto, and it could be integrated into social media experiences as a way of monetizing social interactions. It’s just still a looming paradigm shift, is all, one that may shift our whole apprehension of anonymity, digital ownership of content, etc.

It’s called Web 3.0 for a reason, enabled by the decentralized structure of blockchain. Next phase of the internet experience, etc.
 

luka

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Block chain doesn't exist. You've had the wool pulled over your eyes. It's totally made up.
 

Clinamenic

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Blockchain will be yet another protocol in the stack of protocols that is the internet, as we experience it
 

luka

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It's not actually a word if you look closely it's two words with the space between them removed. Block and Chain. That means it's going to 'block' your personal development by 'chaining' you to material things.
 
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