= same considerations for euthanasia of the born; one has to be very sure in either caseThe whole argument falls flat here - ever heard of Rosemary West? fetal alcohol spectrum disorder? crack? smack? meth? incest? family photo albums where a two year old is sucking off grandad? two year olds dying from drinking mummy's methadone? rape? child abuse? neglect? poverty?
yeah, "valuable futures", ffs
Lots of people who adopt kids or foster them have a really strong emotional bond with them despite not being the biological parents.No! Look at the history of 60s communes, without an emotional connection child rearing does not work - you end up with kids in cages because they didn't eat their porridge
Lots of people who adopt kids or foster them have a really strong emotional bond with them despite not being the biological parents.
Yeah I picked that term rather than "anti-choice" on purpose.@sufi - any chance of getting the thread title changed to "anti-choice misogyny" ?
apologies to @Clinamenic - I've nothing but love for you, but "pro-life" is such right wing / religious zealot bullshit that I can't let it lie - but I'm convinced in the future there will be a religious war between the "ConStans" and the "Clinemenetics", two competing sects both based on the teachings of the one and only true prophet of Dissensus - I envisage a future where the "ConStans" will revere the postings of @constant escape as the one and only true gospel, but they will need interpretation mediated by biased scholars, each with their own agenda to pursue, due to the impenetrable language employed, leading to schisms and divisions, eventually leading the Clinemetenics to prevail due to the gradual rationalisation of abstraction to polymorphism employed by the Messiah
edit: I wrote this when I was a bit drunk, but @Clinamenic you're a star
Would you say your opinion here is relevant if only because of how it may influence your voting, and how your voting may influence clinical availability of these operations?"pro choice" is not the same as "I would have an abortion myself" - you can have your own personal reasons for wanting to keep or not keep a baby, and also be able to understand that other people will make decisions that are right for them without judgement.
as a gay man literally anything I can say on abortion is irrelevant as it will never affect me or my body, I am simply relieved that I would never have to consider the choice myself
The ruling position in academic ethics is that abortion is immoral so that's that.