Leo
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Got it backwards, Big Black were first, first album in 1983. Rapeman was a side project with David Sims and Rey Washburn of Scratch Acid in 1988.
shitting on their own legend
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Got it backwards, Big Black were first, first album in 1983. Rapeman was a side project with David Sims and Rey Washburn of Scratch Acid in 1988.
john eden
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Maurizio Bianchi is a good one.
About ten completely solid melancholic power electronics albums in the 1980s, with the usual problems that go with that.
Then some disappearance and religion. About 200 shit albums in the 1990s and noughties. And all the stuff from the 1980s that was not good enough got released too.
About ten completely solid melancholic power electronics albums in the 1980s, with the usual problems that go with that.
Then some disappearance and religion. About 200 shit albums in the 1990s and noughties. And all the stuff from the 1980s that was not good enough got released too.
maxi
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It's funny though that the stuff that's thought to ruin some of these acts' legacies is actually the most popular stuff. so for most people any legacy they have is from the legacy-ruining stuff
e.g. wiley's pop stuff. if wiley died, they'd prob be playing Cash In My Pocket and Heatwave on the radio 1 tributes, not Eskimo
e.g. wiley's pop stuff. if wiley died, they'd prob be playing Cash In My Pocket and Heatwave on the radio 1 tributes, not Eskimo
luka
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hes the most electric and charismatic broadcaster in the western world by a long way. hes a generational alent
maxi
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although obviously that wouldn't be the case in grime circles which is where his legendarity really exists
Benny Bunter
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maxi
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Imagine if Snoop Dogg disappeared without a trace in 1993. How amazing and unique and weird those early songs would sound. no other rappers have ever really sounded like him and his 92/93 songs still sound good. but at the same time when you're listening you're hearing the same voice you've heard a million times including in Just Eat adverts
Think to really trash your legacy you’d have to release something so monstrously bad or cringeworthy that it retroactively poisons the old material and makes it unlistenable.
Is there anyone who’s screwed up so badly musically that they’ve wiped the memories of ‘the good stuff’ too, and sullied their name forever (not counting things like musicians being outed as kid-fiddlers, etc)?
Suppose the Dead Kennedys’ ‘legacy’ was pitiful: singer gets sued by his bandmates over withheld royalties; they win the case and put out some shitty ‘best of’ CD (with awful artwork) and try to flog Holiday In Cambodia to a jeans ad. I mean, I didn’t really listen to much beyond the first album and the singles, but it’s so out of whack with all their earlier bitching about Corporate Amerikkka and mindless MTV new wave clones, that you kind of wish they’d just bowed out with a shitty synth-pop album instead.
Is there anyone who’s screwed up so badly musically that they’ve wiped the memories of ‘the good stuff’ too, and sullied their name forever (not counting things like musicians being outed as kid-fiddlers, etc)?
Suppose the Dead Kennedys’ ‘legacy’ was pitiful: singer gets sued by his bandmates over withheld royalties; they win the case and put out some shitty ‘best of’ CD (with awful artwork) and try to flog Holiday In Cambodia to a jeans ad. I mean, I didn’t really listen to much beyond the first album and the singles, but it’s so out of whack with all their earlier bitching about Corporate Amerikkka and mindless MTV new wave clones, that you kind of wish they’d just bowed out with a shitty synth-pop album instead.
Leo
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Plenty of artists went downhill but not quite embarrassingly shitsville. Ramones should have quit after the first three albums (well, "Road to Ruin" might split in). Wreckless Eric has a wonderful first few albums and then...
Sometimes terrible events keep the shitville from happening: Joy Division, Nirvana.
Sometimes terrible events keep the shitville from happening: Joy Division, Nirvana.
luka
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his later stuff proved his early stuff was all awful and you were just MK ultraed into enjoying it
I like a few of the songs on "Subterranean Jungle", but I'm weird like that. It's a good job everyone's forgotten that Dee Dee 'rap' song from the late '80s...
They might have done the same trick over and over again, but I'm more baffled by The Stranglers - how do you go from the songs on Black & White to 'Nice In Nice'?? Seems like the kind of thing that would alienate the existing fans, but isn't interesting enough to attract any new ones?