Enemies of Dissensus

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
I met Terence McKenna a couple of times and he was really engaging. Interviewed him at the ICA when he was part of a thing there.


His ideas were mainly a load of tosh, but he was a fun guy. (one for Mr Tea there).

I agree with @poetix that this thread needs more focus. McKenna is just a source of beef between luka’s psychedelic poetry faction on here and third’s psychedelic communist faction on here.

Well this always comes back to my main contension that the most psychedelic music is unintentionally so. 70s Miles, free improv, Umm Kulthum, '92 ardkore, early gabba/hard acid, Mobb Deep, Keith Hudson (the dentist!) Whereas music that consciously tries to evoke those states can be good but can never truly go out. Spaceman III, 60s twea pop, beatles, and can often come across as embarrassing - psytrance/ethnodub, Ozric Tentacles and so on. I exclude japanese psychedelic rock from this because whilst they consciously make psychedelic music it is definitively much more (psycho)delic.
 

luka

Well-known member
I ate a Brighton resturaunt that had a Mckenna quote on the wall today. nice little coincidence.
 

luka

Well-known member
this was the quote

“The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish.”

 

woops

is not like other people
this was the quote

“The syntactical nature of reality, the real secret of magic, is that the world is made of words. And if you know the words that the world is made of, you can make of it whatever you wish.”

Worlds are made from words
 

luka

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So then why does @craner hate him (allegedly)?
ive never really got to the bottom of it. but i think the main reason is that owen started a blog with a white background (craner copied this innovation off of me but thats another story) and sexy pictures like craner had
 
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luka

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Third I'd dare say you are verging on the embarrassingly Anglo practice of orientalism. Japanese noise music your madam butterfly

"that's your orientalism speaking. you're envisioning magical people from these magical far away places with their magical instruments attaining this unattainable music. in reality they're normal blokes playing drums just like anyone else. i could play the stuff from the videos you posted with my eyes closed."
 
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