Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Well if you're still trying, in some roundabout way, to argue for the plausibility of conspiracies of the scale of the 9/11-inside-job theory, then no, it's self-evidently impossible.

You're certainly right that we've been over this a squillion times are never going to change each other's minds, of course.
 

luka

Well-known member
I'm not doing that I'm saying exactly what I said. The things I just said all of which you agree with because you are not insane.
 

luka

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I'm feeling magnanimous. We should believe in the goodness of our fellow man. Only then can we bring the best out of him.
 
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Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
But yes, sure, of course some conspiracies remain secret for a long time, and some presumably forever.
 

luka

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But version, The Peacemaker, the meek and gentle, the fluttery dove of downy feathers, wanted us to talk about what is already established and agreed here.
Operation Tiberius. P2K. Britney as MK Ultra Sex Slave etc
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Worth pointing out that some conspiracies don't need to be kept secret in order to fulfil their goal, and in some cases may even work better when they're widely known about, or at least suspected.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
He says the Lizard People will get their comeuppance one day. There's a Storm coming. But not yet. We have to wait till the Righteous Poor work out they have been brainwashed and enslaved by Lizards. When they do they'll be really angry. That is the Marxian Science.

Nah, he said something far more explosive than that. He said that the lizard people would die by their own hands by the unwashed prole monsters they themselves created.

 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
Marx is the german version of Mary Shelley. Therein lies his brilliance. It's not a question of justice, it's about your evil twin killing you. Luka jr must kill Luka sr, one day.
 

DannyL

Wild Horses
Don't we all though? We just personalise it tories, and the like. Humanity cannot be liberated from its animalistic instincts - this was darwins great insight. At a base level we defecate, procreate and dominate. civilisation is merely the tempering and domesticating of those instincts, not their eradication, which would mean we have to stop existing.
No, I don't agree dude. Or you'll have to make a stronger, clearer case. perhaps. I have a kinda revulsion for conspiracies large;y when they're used to muddy the waters in the wake of mass murders or disseminate reactionary sentiments. I dislike the unacknowledged schadenfreude that takes place in celebrating them. What I was pointing out that this is part of Luke's attraction to them - he didn't want to face up so told me to fuck off or similar which to me, proves the point.

The fact that we animals and will continue to kill each other, lie about it, and celebrate it doesn't cancel out my dislike of this side of our nature. We aren't pretty creatures but we can aspire and do achieve our aspirations at times. Otherwise, we might as well just fully indulge these instincts and roll around in our own shit.
 

luka

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luka

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and the other aspect of that is not the pleasure in destruction for its own sake, delicious as that might be, but the smug moral satisfaction
of seeing chickens come home to roost
 
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