thirdform

pass the sick bucket
Any marxist who rejects conspiracy theories because they are incorrect and not banal spectacle has already spit in the mouthes of his comrades and is on his way to getting an arselicking from the tender tongues of liberal bourgeois politicians. Do not take them seriously, or else we must put a bullet through your anus to kick you out. And tell Ben Watson to listen to gabba on lsd.

In fact, I will go even further and say that liberalism itself is the original conspiracy theory, that society can always be molded to a general will without it expressing contradictions. They are all on the same side.
 

thirdform

pass the sick bucket
You are right though that liberals want to be righteously bored, that the conspiracy theories serve as their bugbear. The marxist proposition is different. domesticated and civilised conspiracy theories are not nearly violent enough. kill kill kill, forward barbarians!

 

luka

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What?!! Anyway Marx was a conspiracy theorist, a notorious one, some would say the best
 

luka

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He says the Lizard People will get their comeuppance one day. There's a Storm coming. But not yet. We have to wait till the Righteous Poor work out they have been brainwashed and enslaved by Lizards. When they do they'll be really angry. That is the Marxian Science.
 
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Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
No one can can keep a secret they tell you while discussing spy cops who lived double lives for decades on another thread. Interesting psychology.
One person keeping a secret is a different proposition from hundreds of thousands of people keeping a secret.
 

luka

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Anyway we have to nothing to argue about you are not an Extremist. You agree with me. You're a reasonable person.
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
Well what did you mean by this then?

No one can can keep a secret they tell you while discussing spy cops who lived double lives for decades on another thread. Interesting psychology.

Who is this "they" who say that?
 

luka

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And remember that secrecy here means keeping it out of the press. That's all it means. There are all sorts of secrets that are widely known but still secret. Eg Jimmy Saville.
 

luka

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As I've said version made the mistake of thinking this is a divide that can be bridged. That a softly softly approach will suffice. But it's just a religious schism that can never be repaired. Best thing you can hope for is to prevent it from breaking out into open warfare. Heads on pikes. Corpses in the streets. Keep it to border raids and potshots and low level skirmishing .
 

Mr. Tea

Let's Talk About Ceps
But we are aware that crime happens, very often we know who's doing it, and not infrequently they get caught.

Savile was obviously being protected by powerful people. But all that did eventually come out in the open, and in any case, it's still a very different scale of activity from the vast networks of co-conspirators that are demanded by some conspiracy theories.
 

luka

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It's ok to concede the point. Just say, good points Luka, you're very annoying, but you're often right. Fair play.
 
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luka

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You have great clarity of mind Luka, for all the bickering I've always admired that about you.
 

luka

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For all your talk to the contrary you are a tremendously rational man with a precise and rigorous intellect. For all the bickering I've always admired that about you. A great clarity of mind I've always said
 
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