Henri Bergson

catalog

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yes, both, none, all etc. this is the problem. you get a bit stuck and are left with nothing but empty or full. and you can't do any work off that. but why do we need to do any work is what the sadhu would probably say but you're right there as well, fuck them know all cunts
 

HannahB

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yes, both, none, all etc. this is the problem. you get a bit stuck and are left with nothing but empty or full. and you can't do any work off that. but why do we need to do any work is what the sadhu would probably say but you're right there as well, fuck them know all cunts
- And yet they are doing the work of not doing work, like non desiring buddhists desiring transcendence, like a theists
 

Clinamenic

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can you explain more?
Not really, but I think re: age of universe it’s relative because of photon speed being the ultimate limitation on what we get to observe and when. I can kinda get why more dense centers of gravity can distort space, (“distort” as opposed to our ideal of space being [a] uniform I suppose) but how gravity distorts time is still beyond me.

But the question of the age of universe is one I wouldn’t know how to go about answering, no idea what experiments were involved in inducing the whole quark-gluon soup epoch preceding the formation of hadrons which would then nucleate into atoms, really I can hardly grasp it in theory.

But what I understand of atomic orbitals is enough to comprise a basic intuition re: collisions of energy loci, and how these collisions can have predictable effects, but also I wouldn’t know how to square that with quantum theory.

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Clinamenic

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But also I think our apprehension of time here is a major handicap, yet I struggle to reconsider time as a simultaneous dimension rather than a procedural one.
 

Clinamenic

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Each moment of what we experience as time could be compared to a 2D slice of what we experience as a 3D object. But visually representing this notion is difficult, superimposing the moments of an objects temporal trajectory onto one another. Perhaps can be represented as a fractal or recursive object of some sort, as in that penultimate sequence in Interstellar.
 

Clinamenic

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Very cool read. Having the microwave lasers as “drivers” of these state swaps, presumably wouldn’t require much energy, but as the article states it’s unclear what application this system has.

A sort of metastable system, wherein not the energy state is stable, but the rhythm with which the system oscillates between those mirror states.

Edit: changed “energy orientation” to “energy state” for consistency.
 

luka

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I would say apropos of Bergson’s Deux Sources that (a) it is largely popularized stuff compared with the same doctrines in Rimbaud, Mallarmé or Valéry. Bergson looks amateurish in their company or that of Joyce. Eliot’s prose repeats most of him. But, most of his ideas belong in an esthetic context from which he has not too skillfully extracted them.
 

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I can't remember where I found this, but I posted it in the Deleuze thread a while back and just stumbled across it again;

"For Bergson, the quality of a thing is not separate from its place in time: there is no way to separate them. This includes human subjectivity. Bergson's notion is that by abstracting human qualities we completely miss their actual pragmatic intent and functioning. Time is a component of becoming. Nothing comes into being without time elapsing. The one constant of time elapsing is that it perpetuates continuous change. So an acorn is never a static acorn, it is also, somewhere along its timeline, a sprout, a fully grown tree, a decaying log. So in this sense, an acorn differs-in-itself. It's latent potentiality of becoming, it's radical differentiation from its current form, is already present within it."
"The forces which produce the branch-angles of an oak lay potent in the acorn."
-- Fenollosa, about 1904.

". . . the pattern-making faculty which lies in the flower-seed or in the grain or in the animal cell. . . . "
-- Pound, 1915.

Kenner kicks off the chapter on transformations (Pound Era) with these two then quickly applies the same idea to sentences via Chomsky and someone I've never heard of called Zellig Harris - didn't even know Zellig was a real name tbh, thought it was just something Woody Allen came up with...
 
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