Universally agreed terrible film(s)

[woops]

I have. It's excruciating and kind of funny and also kind of a document of mental illness.

That's why I like it so much, it's so realistic

 

[Mr. Tea]

But it goes so far beyond mere "bad acting" as to be almost a talent in its own right. I'm sure I couldn't act that weird if I trained at RADA for many years. It's like an alien has assumed human form and is trying to play the part of one from having watched an assortment of soap operas. Or an outsider-art take on the most histrionic and stylised moments in Twin Peaks.

 

[woops]

But it goes so far beyond mere "bad acting" as to be almost a talent in its own right. I'm sure I couldn't act that weird if I trained at RADA for many years. It's like an alien has assumed human form and is trying to play the part of one from having watched an assortment of soap operas. Or an outsider-art take on the most histrionic and stylised moments in Twin Peaks.

The shoddiness strives for the status of art

 

[Mr. Tea]

Plus the fact that nobody knows who "Tommy Wiseau" really is or how he made (or otherwise acquired) the fairly substantial amount of money the film cost to produce makes the production of the film itself almost a piece of performance meta-art.

 

[sus]

You make it sound like a classic and it is. I've never seen anything else with Ryan gosling in but his performance is ice cold and laconic as anything. I love the soundtrack. I love the way it's all about the car, the small act of heroism in the small time crimeworld run out of a pizza place

HannahB is a big hater I reckon

 

[sus]

Like a video game - it’s fake. He is fake. There is no feeling for/ from him, including no non-feeling like stoneface. He might as well be CGI like pretty much every film I have seen him in. This film is an LA fantasy that people drive around there imagining themselves to be in, enacting the mythic which no longer has mythic dimensions- a 2D unmythical package ready myth

This is how we know HannahB isn't sockpuppeting under a female pseudonym—she misses the sprezzatura of Gosling's masculine mask, which any man can immediately recognize as parts of the demands of gender performance, as well as a fundamental masculine Way Of Being

 

[IdleRich]

You sound like boris johnson gov website. And with your other comment. “What you need to know.” “What you need to do”. So does idle rich issuing orders and monorail appraisals

Just to be clear, in case anyone reading this thread is sone kind of humourless automaton, the orders I issued were a joke. If only cos sadly I have no power to enforce them, otherwise I would crush all of you maggots and bend you to my will... and, more importantly, I would order people, to understand what was being said.

 

[IdleRich]

that's why i said the closest thing to an answer would be sequels/franchises/hyped films, ones with big promotional campaigns so tons of people see them, no one likes them and they become well known for being universally regarded as awful (of course nothings completely universal though).

such as
star wars prequels
catwoman
superman 4

then that reputation lives on without anyone even having to see it, as with citizen kane.

however none of those would really be used in shorthand as an opposite equivalent of citizen kane. the film that is like that is The Room, which as someone already said is described as 'the citizen kane of bad movies'. but that is a huge cult film.

Ooh The Mattix sequels might be contenders in fact. The first film raised its makers to the heights of untouchable genius directors... the next two wiped that out and put em back to the bottom. But it wasn't standard sequel problems that did got them. They didn't make the same film again but a tiny bit different as a shameless and empty cash-in, instead they bravely forged on with their own unique vision, it's just that sadly it turned out their vision was shit.

 

[HannahB]

This is how we know HannahB isn't sockpuppeting under a female pseudonym—she misses the sprezzatura of Gosling's masculine mask, which any man can immediately recognize as parts of the demands of gender performance, as well as a fundamental masculine Way Of Being

Moron: https://www.diversitycenterneo.org/about-us/pronouns/

 

[HannahB]

Just to be clear, in case anyone reading this thread is sone kind of humourless automaton, the orders I issued were a joke. If only cos sadly I have no power to enforce them, otherwise I would crush all of you maggots and bend you to my will... and, more importantly, I would order people, to understand what was being said.

Or maybe your jokes are not funny thus being a “humorless automaton” would be yet another subjective opinion you consider a universalism

 

[HannahB]

HannahB is a big hater I reckon

Do you? Why is that? More than other people or just me? Guess how much I don’t want to hear an answer because.
Please let me know how to get kicked off this site and decommissioned or find the unsubscribe button. Great.

 

[catalog]

I really didn't like drive but I've only seen it once. Felt very flashy and mannered, too much for me. I did think the opening chase scene shot only inside the car was pretty interesting, but as soon as the girl and her daughter come on the scene it becomes very predictable and his character less interesting.

Much preferred the place beyond the pines, but that was worse the 2nd time I watched it. It relies on that bollywood esque 25 years later surprise element.

 

[Mr. Tea]

Ooh The Mattix sequels might be contenders in fact. The first film raised its makers to the heights of untouchable genius directors... the next two wiped that out and put em back to the bottom. But it wasn't standard sequel problems that did got them. They didn't make the same film again but a tiny bit different as a shameless and empty cash-in, instead they bravely forged on with their own unique vision, it's just that sadly it turned out their vision was shit.

Yeah I mentioned the Matrix sequels a few pages ago, but I only have general popular opinion to go on regarding how bad they are, as I haven't seen them myself (and I intend to keep it that way).

 

[version]

and is only god forgives good?

Rewatched it last night. It looks and sounds good, but I think he took the experiment with pacing too far. If he'd just added a little more dialogue and varied the tempo a bit then it would have been a much better film. There's this clunky symbolism to do with hands that's a bit of a groan too.

 

[woops]

Rewatched it last night. It looks and sounds good, but I think he took the experiment with pacing too far. If he'd just added a little more dialogue and varied the tempo a bit then it would have been a much better film. There's this clunky symbolism to do with hands that's a bit of a groan too.

I watched it last night too & i thought it was crap

 

[catalog]

Have any of you gone back and rewatched thd pusher trilogy? Especially the first one, that's his best work.

 

[WashYourHands]

Pusher is fun. The first one, Balkan kingpin in pt3 especially is a treat. They do crap dialogue, “the stuff the stuff”, no-one ever called gear stuff and if they did I hope they wobbled from their stuff

But it has bite and satire, this is more of a stoned thought now, stuff tincture Sunday eve

 

[DLaurent]

Small films like those directed by Henry Jaglom or Jon Jost get a pass because they're small indie films, then films like Baywatch with Dwayne Johnson (The Rock) I think are awful but even they have their fans.

 

[IdleRich]

Have any of you gone back and rewatched thd pusher trilogy? Especially the first one, that's his best work.

I've seen the first one a few times, it's great.. has something of the in-the-red, out-of-control freneticism of Crank.

 

[luka]

This is how we know HannahB isn't sockpuppeting under a female pseudonym—she misses the sprezzatura of Gosling's masculine mask, which any man can immediately recognize as parts of the demands of gender performance, as well as a fundamental masculine Way Of Being

ah yes, the Drive thread