Blowup vs The Conversation vs Blow Out

Blowup, The Conversation or Blow Out?


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craner

Beast of Burden
All the French bunuels are also very good, the discreet charm of the bourgeoisie for example.

What, you actually like that film? I don’t believe you. You might fancy Stephane Audran in it, but that’s not the same. Believe me, I’ve made that mistake many times.
 

catalog

Well-known member
Yeah it's a good film. Keeps you guessing. I think it was the first bunuel I saw and it's just doing something different. I prefer belle de jour (another excellent French film!) and Viridiana now, but when I saw that one I really loved it.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
French cinema is shit, that I will get on board with, but nobody can accuse me of saying that for lolz, I’ve been consistent on this point for 20 years, ever since a Godard film made me want smash up the TV on the same weekend I watched Amelie.
There are other French directors though I believe. Two of my favourites are Rivette and Robbe-Grillet.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
I don't have a lot of time for godard, but alphaville is a lot of fun. And truffaut is good: 400 blows, bande a part.

My favourite French new wave director is Eric rohmer. I love the green way. He's very whimsical but if you're in the right mood, there's something about how he does things thats great.
Bande a Part is Godard though isn't it?
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
They're my favourites so yeah I think they're good. Rivette is obviously a highly regarded part of the new wave... but ARG who I feel might be more up your street is far more highly regarded as a novelist... his films are perceived as more of a footnote to his writing I guess. But not by me. I got one of his books the other day but I haven't started it yet.
 

version

Well-known member
Apparently Bird with the Crystal Plumage takes cues from the Antonioni too, but I haven't seen that one yet.
Banger. Really enjoyed it. It isn't quite the same thing as the other three, but there's a similar theme of looking and whether what you think you're seeing is really what you're seeing. I'm tempted to go back to the beginning and see whether what's revealed at the end is actually visible or whether it's shot in such a way that you can't really tell.

It's nothing to do with the thread, but I always seem to enjoy it when a police chief in a film has a bit of personality and some sort of back and forth or rapport with the protagonist, e.g. Claude Rains in Casablanca or Trevor Howard in The Third Man, and there's a similar dynamic in Bird With the Crystal Plumage. The policeman starts off quite cold and professional then gradually warms to the American and seems to just let him do his own investigation, even comes round and ends up having a coffee. Stark contrast to the really weird one in Don't Look Now whom I felt not only suspected Sutherland of something, but was perhaps in on the whole thing himself.
 

craner

Beast of Burden
Banger. Really enjoyed it. It isn't quite the same thing as the other three, but there's a similar theme of looking and whether what you think you're seeing is really what you're seeing. I'm tempted to go back to the beginning and see whether what's revealed at the end is actually visible or whether it's shot in such a way that you can't really tell.

It's nothing to do with the thread, but I always seem to enjoy it when a police chief in a film has a bit of personality and some sort of back and forth or rapport with the protagonist, e.g. Claude Rains in Casablanca or Trevor Howard in The Third Man, and there's a similar dynamic in Bird With the Crystal Plumage. The policeman starts off quite cold and professional then gradually warms to the American and seems to just let him do his own investigation, even comes round and ends up having a coffee. Stark contrast to the really weird one in Don't Look Now whom I felt not only suspected Sutherland of something, but was perhaps in on the whole thing himself.

Welcome to Italy.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
It's nothing to do with the thread, but I always seem to enjoy it when a police chief in a film has a bit of personality and some sort of back and forth or rapport with the protagonist, e.g. Claude Rains in Casablanca or Trevor Howard in The Third Man, and there's a similar dynamic in Bird With the Crystal Plumage. The policeman starts off quite cold and professional then gradually warms to the American and seems to just let him do his own investigation, even comes round and ends up having a coffee. Stark contrast to the really weird one in Don't Look Now whom I felt not only suspected Sutherland of something, but was perhaps in on the whole thing himself.
I like that too, a number of police procedurals do realise that the 'detective of the week' can be more than just an empty suit for the sleuth to run rings round.

When I moved here Silent Witness was always on and each body they investigated came with its own attached inspector, guessing the type they would turn out to be was a kind of game we would play; sometimes they are obstructive but other times they make a great team with our heroes, sometimes they are racist or alcoholic, maybe they are being blackmailed or facing unfair pressure from above to collar someone quickly regardless of guilt, occasionally they shag one of the main people and at least once they are the murderer, one of them puts his health on the line for the case as it's revealed he is secretly suffering from terminal cancer etc etc My favourite tupe is the overly officious and uptight stuffed shirt whom you hate at first but ultimately start to grudgingly respect when he does applies the same standards to himself and acts with unexpected bravery when the chips are down.

The other show that does that well and which is on here a lot (I bet if I turned the telly on and flicked through the channels it would be on one of them right now in fact) is Murder She Wrote - there is a default setting of the police chief being a business like sexist who foolishly dismisses JB Fletcher as an interfering and slightly eccentric busy-body and is repeatedly made to look stupid by her infallible megabrain - but beyond that there are many varieties they started chucking into the mix; first-timers asking for help, hard bitten women who instantly dislike her, again there is at least one who turns out to be the murderer... and another who wants her advice on how to publish the magnum opus he has secretly being writing in his time off.
 
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