Meet Stan in the flesh

[sus]

An applied enlightenment here, as opposed to a renunciative one, would amount to a faithful surfing of the entelechy of the cosmos qua thermodyanmic supersystem.

Yeah it's very like, nerd wet dream stuff, this idea's gotten into the water supply, "max out the potential of the cosmos" "spread intelligence throughout the universe" etc.

 

[Clinamenic]

That, in looking for a semiotic ground, one is perpetually deferred to other nodes in the semiotic structure, each node being a different reflection of the structure itself. I understand the term is a sort of overlap of deferral and difference.

 

[Clinamenic]

That, in looking for a semiotic ground, one is perpetually deferred to other nodes in the semiotic structure, each node being a different reflection of the structure itself. I understand the term is a sort of overlap of deferral and difference.

e.g. in order to absolutely and unambiguously understand the semiotic significance of a word ("signifiance" as I've seen Deleuze use), one would need to exhaustively understand the whole semiotic system, and by extension the material world which inspires these words, in order to properly contextualize the meaning of the target word.

 

[Clinamenic]

At any rate, my current argument is that such a pursuit is misguided, looking for a ground that doesn't exist in absolute terms. The same argument was made by Rovelli in this interview about his popular science book on quantum theory. Only, he didn't explain it in terms of poststructural philosophy.

 

[Clinamenic]

Semantic pragmatism, as demonstrated by Bateson in that passage, would be my preferred handling of semantic relativity and semiotic groundlessness.

 

[Clinamenic]

This Bateson piece is a concise goldmine. This bit taps into my perspective on death, namely that it needn't be understood with such grim finality as most people understand it.

Socrates as a bioenergetic individual is dead. But much of him still lives in the contemporary ecology of ideas

 

[yyaldrin]

does anyone from here has an onlyfans account?

 

[Clinamenic]

No but I'd imagine that would be a good format, although I don't know if it allows for multi-video chat.

 

[Clinamenic]

If I am right, the whole of our thinking about what we are and what other people are has got to be restructured.

The most important task today is, perhaps, to learn to think in the new way. Let me say that I don't know how to think that way.

There are experiences and disciplines which may help me to imagine what it would be like to have this habit of correct thought. Under LSD, I have experienced, as have many others, the disappearance of the division between self and the music to which I was listening. The perceiver and the thing perceived become strangely united into a single entity. This state is surely more correct than the state in which it seems that "I hear the music." The sound, after all is Ding an sich, but my perception of it is a part of mind.

Acid Communism

 

[Clinamenic]

It is told of Johnann Sebastian Bach that when somebody asked him how he played so divinely, he answered, "I play the notes, in order, as they are written. It is God who makes the music." But not many of us can claim Bach's correctness of epistemology—or that of William Blake, who know that the Poetic Imagination was the only reality. The poets have known these things all through the ages, but the rest of us have gone astray into all sorts of false reifications of the "self" and separations between the "self" and "experience."

In the dialogue with Meno, Socrates suggests that it is as if ideas arrive in the mind, as if they are drawn from some source or are otherwise sent. Perhaps this may shed a light on how certain insight has been felt as divine revelation, why certain people claim to have interfaced with higher-order beings.

Whereas, I would make the secular argument that insight is an artifact of consciousness, as enabled by the sort of biological systems that this article touches upon, and is not bestowed by external god-like entities.

Metaphysical, insofar as ideas are abstract, but secular.

 

[WashYourHands]

At any rate, my current argument is that such a pursuit is misguided, looking for a ground that doesn't exist in absolute terms. The same argument was made by Rovelli in this interview about his popular science book on quantum theory. Only, he didn't explain it in terms of poststructural philosophy.

ta, brilliant guest terrible host, processed prepping grub

 

[wektor]

okay so when is this happening?

 

[Clinamenic]

Might have to do another poll, but how about this Sunday night? Also I don't know what kind of timezone spread we're dealing with.

 

[linebaugh]

I couldnt do this sunday

 

[linebaugh]

Also keep in mind it would have to be an american mid day

 

[linebaugh]

Still so cool

 

[luka]

see what you make of this Stan. he reminds me of you.

JustKnecht – Medium

Read writing from JustKnecht on Medium. Glass Bead Game designer. Every day, JustKnecht and thousands of other voices read, write, and share important stories on Medium.

justknecht.medium.com

 

[luka]

i remembered him today after someone described our crystalline thread as like the glass bead game on acid.
id actually recommend this if you had the attention span to read a book cos i think you would recognise your self in it

The Glass Bead Game - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

but you dont have that sort of attention span so just read the summary on wikipedia

 

[luka]

i found him cos hes written about prynne

2.1 Alt for​

“Alt,” the first word of the poem, sets the tone for our reading. A polyvalent word, made even more significant by the grammatical uncertainty of its context, its meanings include:

• An abbreviation for “alternate” (AHD[7]);
• “In an exalted or excited frame of mind” (OED2[8]);
• “A key on a computer keyboard that is pressed in combination with another key to execute an alternate operation[9].”

The word is related etymologically (CDE[10]) to the Latin “altus” (“high, grown-up”) and “almus” (“fostering”), and to the Germanic “alt” (“old”).

If we look for the alternate, exalted, ancient, dual usage of the word with which “alt” is first combined — “for” — we find an early recorded use is around 725 AD in Beowulf, meaning “for, before, on account of.” Prynne himself has written at some length on the “dark logic” of the word “for,” in his commentary on Shakespeare’s Sonnet 94[11]: “At certain crucial junctures the dark logic of the for-linkage is itself the hardest challenge to understanding.” Already the question of argument — poetical and otherwise — is being put in front of us: the means by which we make up our minds about meaning, the world at large, and courses of action.

Furthermore, the word “for” is related to the Indo-European root “per,” which itself has many facets which become significant as the poem develops[12].

Later in the poem, the word “alt” also immediately precedes only two other words, both of which have a historical meaning which will prove to have a bearing on wider themes in the poem as a whole:

• “mere” — the oldest meaning in Old English, from before 700AD, being “lake, pond” — such as the famous haunted mere in Beowulf where Grendel dwelt;
• “fierce” — related by etymology to the word “feral,” and the Indo-European root “ghwer,” meaning “wild beast.”

2.2 List of other common dual use items​

Let us apply this same “alt” operation to some frequently occurring words in the text of the poem.

 

[luka]

Crystalline/Glacial

Music that sounds like crystals. Music that’s crystal clear. Music that crystalizes. Purity, sharpness, edges, frosted, fractal, cool air, arctic color schemes, slick, sleek. This isn’t merely aesthetic, it’s cognitive. That LSD sharpness. Clear headed, sharp witted, a moment of clarity.

www.dissensus.com