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the beastie boys did that. went to tibet to meet the dali lama. one of them married a riot grrrrrrl.
Yeah, Ad-Rock married Kathleen Hanna from Bikini Kill - MCA was the political one though. It was him who got really into Tibet and the other two just went along with it, iirc.
 

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nu metal is considered cool in alot of circles these days
webeschatology wrote this^ in the catalog hip hop thread but just gonna respond to it here

I think part of this nu-metal thing is because the young-ish people directing what's cool right now are people who were little children when nu metal/linkin park/deftones etc was popular.

im talking under 10 years old, say

they were young enough not to be worrying too much about what was cool at that time. but they heard it, liked it and now associate it with their childhoods. so the love for it now is genuine - it's not an ironic, cynical attempt to make something shit seem cool. they can just look past how lame it seemed at the time to other people, because it was part of their childhood and they're attached to it.

the same thing happened in the 2000s with people who were small kids when 80s synthpop was around. they didn't view toto - africa as corporate elevator music like the cool people of that time did - it just reminded them of a summer when they were 8 years old or whatever, and the synths sounded nice

what's been unravelled in both cases is actually a lot of the superficial elements surrounding boths musics that made people malign them at the time. the people who received them uncynically and without consideration of cultural meaning or importance or any of that baggage (ie small children) just heard it as music

that's my simple theory for what drives it anyway but of course when it becomes cool and revived people then join in for all kinds of reasons including irony, bandwagonning, etc.
 

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OPN borrowed the Korn logo for a while.

opn-korn.jpg
 

catalog

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webeschatology wrote this^ in the catalog hip hop thread but just gonna respond to it here

I think part of this nu-metal thing is because the young-ish people directing what's cool right now are people who were little children when nu metal/linkin park/deftones etc was popular.

im talking under 10 years old, say

they were young enough not to be worrying too much about what was cool at that time. but they heard it, liked it and now associate it with their childhoods. so the love for it now is genuine - it's not an ironic, cynical attempt to make something shit seem cool. they can just look past how lame it seemed at the time to other people, because it was part of their childhood and they're attached to it.

the same thing happened in the 2000s with people who were small kids when 80s synthpop was around. they didn't view toto - africa as corporate elevator music like the cool people of that time did - it just reminded them of a summer when they were 8 years old or whatever, and the synths sounded nice

what's been unravelled in both cases is actually a lot of the superficial elements surrounding boths musics that made people malign them at the time. the people who received them uncynically and without consideration of cultural meaning or importance or any of that baggage (ie small children) just heard it as music

that's my simple theory for what drives it anyway but of course when it becomes cool and revived people then join in for all kinds of reasons including irony, bandwagonning, etc.
Very long post can't read it just now bug will do later I'm sure it's good
 

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sorta/kinda related: my cousin was a classmate of Shepard Fairey at RISD, she says he was just a typical nerdy kid who decided to plaster downtown Providence with his "Andre the Giant has a Posse/7'4", 520 lb" stickers. The rest is history.
 
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Leo

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in the States, we also have the skater offshoot: snowboarding. a friend in Burlington is married to a former sales rep for Burton, all the snowboard kids were like richer versions of skaters (since the gear and lift tickets are more expensive than just buying a skateboard). wiseaases annoying skiers on the slopes, usually potheads.
 

catalog

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sorta/kinda related: my cousin was a classmate of Shepard Fairey at RISD, she says he was just a typical nerdy kid who decided to plaster downtown Providence with his "Andre the Giant has a Posse/7'4", 520 lb" stickers. The rest is history.
This is the difference I think limbo is trying to scratch out. There's none of that (what I would call) ironic distance with myspazchic
 

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in the States, we also have the skater offshoot: snowboarding. a friend in Burlington is married to a former sales rep for Burton, all the snowboard kids were like richer versions of skaters (since the gear and lift tickets are more expensive than just buying a skateboard). wiseaases annoying skiers on the slopes, usually potheads.
is this the ultimate wanker sport
 

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It doesn't have the same freedom to it as you have to go to specific places for it. You can't just get out in the street like you can with skating. The urban exploration aspect's completely absent.
 
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catalog

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No one skates in England tho. Its a very poser move here. You rarely see someone doing it on the street. If you do, it's a bit off.
 

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One of the strangest results of being into skating, for me, was being in England and ending up with this patchy map of LA and NYC geography based around specific handrails, ledges and staircases.
 
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