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wild greens

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I dunno i am pretty bored of all of them these days

Tbf i have muted hundreds of people now but twitter seems a lot more boring and serious than it used to, seems like most people are on insta but that's quite dull i think, too many pictures. I don't think you should be on tiktok if you're past 30

So i have reached an internet impasse tbf tho i do realise i am in the minority here

Edit- replying to luka pipe cleaner analogy
 
luka

luka

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having kids probably gives you something else to focus on. i have to get ready for work
 
WashYourHands

WashYourHands

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luka said:
i dont think hes saying the behaviour is not compulsive, hes just calling the addiction model into question and asking whether all repeated behaviours are usefully characterised as addiction and whether the dopamine model gives you any real understanding of the process over and above already existing models of reward/pleasure
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infernal desire machines, “content strategy”, boredom too you can never discount its influence, but confluences of corporate and govt agendas underpinned by fundamental neurology

i appreciate you informing I didn’t outline fuck all of use, but read back, it’s in plain English and if facts are the problem here they override sentiments sorry

we’ve already been through the farce of data harvesting, does anyone think that’s the entirety of the iceberg? as for top down vs bottom up, think Gus needs to lay off the porn a bit
 
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WashYourHands

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
adaptive behaviour models (fundamentals) vs maladaptive

we’re beholden to the latter, why?

design focused on the same ancient part of the brain that was present when we birthed eggs (instead of mammalian live young)

it doesn’t get more succinct
 
sus

sus

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luka said:
thats just one anglo thread they draw on but there are others, like for example Mcluhan, Castenada, Laing, Burroughs, basically the english language 60s LSD canon is what they are comprised of more than anything. mass market paperbacks.
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Oh that sounds great
 
sus

sus

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luka said:
you can definitely say, as a reductionist, that the body is a tool for extracting energy from the environment.
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Yup, as I understand this is one of the major ways life is defined—it extracts energy from the environment to minimize entropy, which without energy, would naturally increase per 2nd law
 
sus

sus

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shiels said:
Can you explain this?
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He's referencing the infamous finding by his guru Mr. Jordan B Peterson, who argued compellingly that lobsters are regulated by the same neurochemical systems, in similar way, as we hu-mans are.
 
WashYourHands

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
No, again. Remember you’re communicating with another adult and not transferring about your own Dad. Do a meme though and I’m all in


The key words in the preamble are behavioural tasks and goal direction, rump of the blurb

Methods
PET-scan acquisition. Eight healthy, male, right-handed volunteers (range 36–46 years of age) took part in the study (approved by the local Ethics Committee). Informed consent was obtained for all subjects. Each received two [11]RAC–PET scans (total injected dose of 16–20mCi), one during the behavioural task (video game) and one under baseline conditions (blank screen). Subjects played the video game from 10 min before to 50 min after [11C]RAC injection. PET scans were acquired on separate days using a 953B- Siemens/CTI PET camera in three-dimensional mode. Head movement during scanning was minimized by the use of a moulded head rest and external head markings.
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Behavioural task. The video game involved moving a ‘tank’ through a ‘battlefield’ on a screen using a mouse with the right hand. Subjects had to collect ‘flags’ with the tank while destroying ‘enemy tanks’. Enemy tanks could destroy the three ‘lives’ of the subjects’ tank. If subjects collected all flags, they progressed to the next game level, which required more flags to be collected. A reward of £7 was given per game level achieved.
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Now, apply this to a shagging app‘s swipes or the sneaky and insidious introduction of ‘likes’ into life or the Day of Pinhead. Teaching machines galore, birthed by neural networks to control neural networks. ”Connectivity“

Again, look at your own mild obsession with social capital and likes Gus. Do you see it? Of course you do - you feel it in your gut. Do you know what led you here? The last few pages. I see it with kids, fear of missing out, it’s ok you grow out of it

Anyone who’s ever got stuck too deep in a chemical relationship with certain compounds knows the majority of hardcore addicts have experienced trauma. But the data on behavioural tasks is even more solid. How do you think an army functions?

So, in outlining the answer to your question @shiels the summary point can be quoted from Burroughs

“Question - Is Control controlled by its need to control? Answer - Yes“
 
WashYourHands

WashYourHands

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Doesn’t believe in archetypes, draws a tarot card each day

Balls deep in gamification, rejects neurochemical interactions as architecture of subconscious drives

Case dismissed, m’lud
 
sus

sus

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WashYourHands said:
manchild, so much promise haemorrhaging from hubris
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"goddam manchild... you act like a kid altho you stand six foot two... self-loathing poet, resident Laurel Can-you-know-it-all... you talk to the walls when the party gets bored of you"
 
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