Middle age matesmanship and the pit

linebaugh

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It seems like what youre describing is normal friendship in adult contexts. Thats not what this thread is about
 
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linebaugh

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But I remember woops telling me a very touching story about you luke. How you were instrumental in getting him out of the pit. Im focused on how mateship works when there is actually a semi life or death element to it, as with anything you do once youre a propper adult
 
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luka

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it's actually very very difficult becasue you then get put into an uneasy hinterland between nursemaid and friend. so sometimes you will say, no i think you must stop drinking and doing cocaine this is a serious addiction you are struggling with and last week if you recall you were standing on a bridge at midnight on the phone to me talking about how you wanted to commit suicide....

you tell them that and then they go, shall we just have a few beers then, and next thing you know the cocaine is on the table too.

so its hard to negotiate
 

luka

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that is not in reference to woops who has never had a cocaine addiction or called me on the brink of suicide, just to clear up any potential misunderstanding. but our method of mateship as men tends to be, well i'll partner with you in your journey to obliteration and anything else is best left to the prfoessionals
 

luka

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becasue youre not going to be able to set boundaries with your friends, becasue theres all that history of being dicks together that exerts its dark gravity
 

luka

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becasue you dont know any other way to interact. the person with the problems exerts a greater gravity than your flimsy attempts to be virtuous. over time they will ways win.
 

linebaugh

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Its a very different feeling than pre adulthood relationships- in those theres always the promise that said mate will become something else no matter what happens and all you need to do is wait. Now theres no such guarantee
 

linebaugh

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becasue you dont know any other way to interact. the person with the problems exerts a greater gravity than your flimsy attempts to be virtuous. over time they will ways win.
This might be a slight generational gap. My generation is good with getting serious about expressing emotions. It comes naturally from our sexual liberation
 

luka

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has there been uptick in marriage among young americans? or is it just a specific subset? Or have americans always married young?
 

luka

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i can only think of one peer that has got married off the top of my head, and craner is currently engaged.
 

luka

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Its a very different feeling than pre adulthood relationships- in those theres always the promise that said mate will become something else no matter what happens and all you need to do is wait. Now theres no such guarantee
this is a good observation, that you have all already slipped past the point of no return
 

luka

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the 30s is basically
what used to be harmless
vices in the twenties, harden into serious problems, your friend that
used to get drunk and funny becomes a sloppy mess, your friend that
likes a few lines is sitting in the flat all day with the curtains drawn doing
lines alone.
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luka

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your friend that was into conspiracy theories or new age wisdom is now in a mental institution or has thrown himself out of a window
your depressed friend is dead too
 
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