Glitchcore? Cybergoth? Post-hardcore? Breakcore? Weirdcore?

[luka]

Happy Black Friday Caroline Polachek

Clearly some Kate Bush stuff happening in this music vid. One of 2020's better music essays—on crushing, Catholicism, the role of fantasy. https://artificialdevotional.substack.com/p/on-caroline-polachek-carly-rae-jepsen While listening to Pang, I spent a lot of time considering desire in the...

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[luka]

the important thing to do, in order to placate the masses is to explain that you dont think the music is good, or expect anybody to 'like' it. patiently explain that you are merely using it as a lens to investigate said social/political realities. then do your brilliant exposition

 

[luka]

i thought the 19 year old Wektor actually made a start here by suggesting the social function of this music but you didnt seem very impressed

 

[luka]

prescription stimulant music for doing your webdev work ("coding")

like this may not be accurate i dont know, im not 19 like he is, but it suggests the conditions the music is made under and consumed under, what its social function is and so on

 

[luka]

he is himself a coder and also one of the most famous experimental electronic music auteurs of today. and he has an alarming 'smart drug' habit and an intimate familiarity with prescription stimulants so he knows what hes talking about. and on top of that he studies music composition at Goldsmiths.

 

[luka]

as one of our younger members was saying just the other day

everyone in this generation who wants to think and write about music faces the same problem. music has been cancelled. music, like Reality itself, is now generated by The Algorithm. we've been shunted onto the simulation. the only thing you can really do that's interesting and worthwhile is to closely analyse and interpret what is there. there's nothing to champion but plenty to examine and understand.

 

[luka]

There is some properly exciting stuff in this domain, but it is absolutely saturated with anime/memes/nonce chucklefucks. At its best it's properly psychedelic though.

i agree that this is all good as far as it goes but it also is a good illustration of one of bartys arguments, that sci-fi, and those future-visions are now inherently retro, kitschy and conservative

 

[luka]

they dont refer to or reflect historical forces but only point back to earlier representations of the future embodied in science fiction. that was a better argument, it turns out, than i realised at the time

 

[bassbeyondreason]

In a way it's definitely the last of that 90s cyberpunk continuum, but at its best there's something in it, like Xenakis or extreme electroacoustic music, that just can't quite be assimilated.

 

[bassbeyondreason]

An angel moves too fast to see.

 

[bassbeyondreason]

Like how the Neon Screams stuff is a step beyond the simple cyborgism of the vocoder/early autotune, this music can go beyond the machine-music paradigm into a Deleuzean mess of erotics, or a reaching for the Noumenal like Renaissance polyphony.

 

[luka]

i agree its good fun

 

[bassbeyondreason]

The true spirit of rave, drugnoise.

 

[wektor]

as one of our younger members was saying just the other day

newness = futurism = fascism

 

[bassbeyondreason]

Reading theory for the buzz of it and nothing else.

Schizo Politics For Scallies part 0.0001 : Howard Slater : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive

Article from Break/Flow magazine.

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[luka]

is flashcore new is it? i assumed it was some old thing third dug up on the grounds that he is hostile towards anything and everything made in the last 20 years

 

[luka]

The true spirit of rave, drugnoise.

one doubt i have is whether or not this is really drug noise, i.e. music designed to have a synergistic relationship with drugs. i'd have to do an experiement to find out. it might actually just sound annoying and stupid

 

[luka]

is it made from a deep familiarity with and understanding of drug spaces or is it annoying people trying to be as annoying as possible. it sounds good sober but what does it sound like if youve just done 12 Ecstasys with Corpsey, or drunk a shot glass of liquid acid?

 

[bassbeyondreason]

Flashcore is old but never had its moment. It's less synergistic drugnoise than noise-as-drug, inducing the state itself. The non-memey stuff works very well with acid though.

 

[bassbeyondreason]

I was at this, on acid, and it turned me inside out: