Glitchcore? Cybergoth? Post-hardcore? Breakcore? Weirdcore?
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Simon silverdollarcircle
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With a lot of this music, and a lot of music being made today tbh, I end up wondering where the drive for pleasure has gone.
Like it all seems so self consciously cut up, zig zagging around, throwing you off. I get that it's music that sounds like life online with a thousand tabs open and surfing Wikipedia endlessly Yadda Yadda yadda.
But music used to be pleasurable you know? Jungle was/is sexy, exciting, absolutely hedonistic. Music to bring..on. the. rush.
What's this ritalin music for? Why make music that sounds like the shit mundane part of human existence (being awake at 4am with a thousand tabs open on your laptop)? That's what I don't get.
May be that's it actually- may be this music, for all it's hyperactivity, is really at root just a reflection of mundanity. Like gang of four were to 80s grimness and dole queues, this stuff is to 2020's bleary online "life"
Like it all seems so self consciously cut up, zig zagging around, throwing you off. I get that it's music that sounds like life online with a thousand tabs open and surfing Wikipedia endlessly Yadda Yadda yadda.
But music used to be pleasurable you know? Jungle was/is sexy, exciting, absolutely hedonistic. Music to bring..on. the. rush.
What's this ritalin music for? Why make music that sounds like the shit mundane part of human existence (being awake at 4am with a thousand tabs open on your laptop)? That's what I don't get.
May be that's it actually- may be this music, for all it's hyperactivity, is really at root just a reflection of mundanity. Like gang of four were to 80s grimness and dole queues, this stuff is to 2020's bleary online "life"
wektor
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it really is the musical equivalent of a cumpilation.
a montage which contains only the very peaks of ecstasy with all other context cut out.
due to being put one next to another they form the most non exciting plateau possible.
the editor of the video cut down on all the less exciting bits of the source material, yet you are still skipping through, in a futile attempt of finding the most intense within the intense, anything that would strike you at all.
As much soundcloud, as it is pornhub.
forclosure
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no disrespect gnasher i just brought up the ting with Fisher and jungle cuase it's something i've noticed quite frequently
i thought that Post rave maximalist track wasn't bad although "maximalist" music isn't really my thing and as for Blue Moon Nexus outside of the fake dreamcast art didn't really sound that much different from stuff of the period tbh
only thing i tick off on that list is being a man but honestly outside of me @thirdform and a few others who i assume don't really chat music that's what your gonna find on this here forum i'm afraid
forclosure
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luka
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im not really tbh i just get annoyed by people pretending internet music is something i should pay attention to
forclosure
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@gnasher i mean i can see what you mean about the signifiers of the internet as such but outside those signifiers it doesn't feel that much musically different to what people like Venetian Snares, Bong-ra and what those guys were doing in the mid 2000s
I get that since hyperpop became a thing people have been going back to some of this stuff and trying to take it seriously in a way alot of people didn't and still don't to some degree but yeah doesn't exactly strike me as "post-internet" or whatever
I get that since hyperpop became a thing people have been going back to some of this stuff and trying to take it seriously in a way alot of people didn't and still don't to some degree but yeah doesn't exactly strike me as "post-internet" or whatever
forclosure
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what gives you the impression that they're pretending? honest question?
yyaldrin
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dj /rupture comes to mind as well
luka
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i dont think they're actually pretending tbf.
forclosure
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is it cause i tend to find this kinda music is often made by trans people, trans women more often than not like if it's not this then its stuff like black dresses or they're forming queercore punk bands
I disagree. Clearly you haven't listened to enough 93 bad trip darkside. Destroy your poptimist illusions!
luka
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no, hes right and your definition of pleasure is too narrow
It is liberal identitarianism though. Modern raciological politics like to abstract at will who is white or who isn't. So me, brown skinned, Asian, am theoretically white according to many Americans, because I am Kurdish Turkmen, I am somehow white because I don't fit into the oppressor/oppressed dynamic. And it is often white people who make these arguments instead of being like, all right, I own that I'm white, even if I recognise that race is a pseudo-scientific concept.
No, it's far more expansive than yours. Psychosis can be very pleasurable. Not all jungle is sexy.
There is some properly exciting stuff in this domain, but it is absolutely saturated with anime/memes/nonce chucklefucks. At its best it's properly psychedelic though.
LickNand
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Yeah, the bandcamp trans noise pop/french/japanese flashcore end of it is fascinating. Really pushing at the limits of cognition whilst still being linked to grotty bassments.
Great mix this, proper future speedcore!
Sadistic is good also.
blissblogger
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Gnasher and Kieran and Wektor ought to be form Nu-Dissensus with a Logan's Run-like cut-off age