the Arbitrary

luka

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ive not idea how i ended up with it. it looks like i bought it new. it must have been lying round the house for years unopened.
 

Clinamenic

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Im not a proper scholar as yet and I suspect the real Enjoyment might come from proper scholars who can connect the dots and see the patterns of interference, reading in a less literal more literary way
Yeah I think this is on a good track, that the takeaway may not be a message per se, but a modality.
 

Clinamenic

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A modality that is itself protean and dynamic, in relation to a protean and dynamic material (i.e. conscious human experience most broadly), rather than applying some static and systematically consistent mode of analysis and appreciation.
 

Clinamenic

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That the modality itself is dynamic and heterogenous indicates the kind of schizo characteristics explored in poststructuralist thought, in my opinion. A plurality of authorial voices and approaches, different angles on the same protean flow of phenomena, a flow that is appreciated in fragmentary and intersubjective ways.

edit: talking about Ulysses here, from what I remember.
 

entertainment

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my concern is mainly, do you as an artist, or just a person, have to have an ideal?

it seems to me that without an ideal, you can only see the world through observation, a cold, rationalist, agnostic, passive, academic mode of thinking.

back the joyce thing, it's a perfect illustration of modernism isn't it?

if we say art used to have nature as its ideal, which made the artist strive for the position of god. then as the nature was flattened, and the object changed from the world to our perspective of the world, the ideal had be located in the mind of the artist himself. naturally, the ideal took the form of craft, technique, innovation, virtuosity, where Joyce comes in, not only representing this evolution but as a good catholic drawing attention to the silliness and ungodliness of it as well.
 
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