I'M FUCKING DONE

IdleRich

IdleRich
wow. do you like that part of the international superstar DJ life? i can see how it would be class to rock up in a city and have some ready made mates who want to drive you around and show you things.
Just been thinking about this and realised I neglected the most important part of the reply. Which is to say that - obviously - any place is better when you know people. When I was about twenty I went with a gf to Budapest and she had a friend from there... he wasn't even around but he linked us up with his mates and they treated us like special guests... since then I have tried to get at least an element of that on any trip I take anywhere.

Back then it wasn't so easy, but now we have the internet and, specifically, dissensus. If one of you lot goes to Lisbon I'll do my best to roll out a - slightly tatty and off-colour no doubt - red carpet. That's not even generosity, just one of of my duties as a member of the international society of sofa-surfing wastrel almost musicians or whatever. I don't want to make it sound transactional or mercenary but, hand in hand with that, there is a slight expectation that, should I find myself in... I dunno, Denmark let's say, then, I would hope to meet up with @entertainment (just picking on you at random here sorry) for a beer. Or, let's say he ain't around, he will tell me where to go instead.

I know if anyone goes to London then @luka and @woops will certainly treat them like kings. Just ask @suspended about that.

If I somehow make it to NY then perhaps I even have a coffee with Shak himself...
 
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sufi

lala
One of the things that's under appreciated about grime is just how young the people making it and consuming it were and as a corrolary of that, how important the youth clubs were in terms of building the networks and incubating the sound
I was thinking about this sorta thing in terms of late Tory stagnation - by the time Blair got in there had been decades of social destruction, the youth clubs arsoned by Thatcher for example and the stolen baby milk - Rave was like an explosion.
Feels like we are in a similar era - everything stagnant, no future
 

sufi

lala
Just been thinking about this and realised I neglected the most important part of the reply. Which is to say that - obviously - any place is better when you know people. When I was about twenty I went with a gf to Budapest and she had a friend from there... he wasn't even around but he linked us up with his mates and they treated us like special guests... since then I have tried to get at least an element of that on any trip I take anywhere.

Back then it wasn't so easy, but now we have the internet and, specifically, dissensus. If one of you lot goes to Lisbon I'll do my best to roll out a - slightly tatty and off-colour no doubt - red carpet. That's not even generosity, just one of of my duties as a member of the international society of sofa-surfing wastrel almost musicians or whatever. I don't want to make it sound transactional or mercenary but, hand in hand with that, there is a slight expectation that, should I find myself in... I dunno, Denmark let's say, then, I would hope to meet up with @entertainment (just picking on ypu at random here sorry) for a beer. Or, let's say he ain't around, he will tell me where to go instead.

I know if anyone goes to London then @luka and @woops will certainly treat them like kings. Just ask @suspended about that.

If I somehow make it to NY then perhaps I even have a coffee with Shak himself...
My Euro (Basque) mates in London are like a EuroHippy sofa network,
and I know other communities are like that too - classic Somali deal is to show up in a new city, find the disapora and you are sorted - I have done that myself despite not even being Somali,
Perhaps it's just teh Brits that don't really get it
 

luka

Well-known member
Absolutely can't stand it. Dirty socks strewn everywhere. Drinking your beers. Smoking your weed. It's maybe even worse to be on the other side of the equation. Edmund has thousands of stories of getting evilly abused when he thought he should be enjoying someone's hospitality.
 

luka

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You're always going to be better off in a travelodge if you can afford it, and if you can't it's probably better to stay at home. No one is going to enjoy putting you up, at best they'll tolerate it, grudgingly, for a few days. But you'll have to be thick skinned and ignore the constant hints and acts of passive aggression,
 

sufi

lala
All my cousins are kiwis and once they set up camp on your couch you can't get rid of them. It's horrible. Freeloading cunts.
haha i have been through that with the karmic freeload cycle - random african guys from countries i never even visited showing up :love:

but then i have spent months dossing round people's places in Egypt, Saudi, Sudan and Senegal and Somalia where you can only really do hotels if you are on western expense accounts due to hard currency issues. Needless to say you will experience a highly authentic tourist experience that way. I experienced cerebral brain malaria after @Woebot abandoned me in Senegal
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
All my cousins are kiwis and once they set up camp on your couch you can't get rid of them. It's horrible. Freeloading cunts.
There is definitely a balance to be struck.
Our friend Denis moved from outside Chelyabinsk to the big city - Moscow I mean - and his brother and a mate came to visit him. Both alcoholic yokels basically, they got there and started drinking until they passed out. Every morning he stepped over their unconscious bodies on his way to work, when he returned in the evening they were already blind drunk. This went on for two weeks until they left without exchanging more than a few words with him. I guess that's low maintenance.
 

luka

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Like the world is my playground and I have the right to go swanning about in it without consequences. I don't think I could do it.
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
NY is one city where I have hardly known anyone weirdly enough. I hope that @suspended moves there and then I will try and arrange a trip and hopefully I will kinda twist his arm into booking me some DJ gigs. It's a long term plan but I think it's a good one.
 
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sus

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Like the world is my playground and I have the right to go swanning about in it without consequences. I don't think I could do it.
When you visit you inject desperately needed money into the economy

This is a classic battle of sentimentality vs practical reality
 

sus

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It's the identitarian poisoning, ignoring actual consequences for what X action says about "you" how it reflects on you in bourgeois society the overtones and connotations the possible mis-reads the nasty types you might be lumped together with associatively
 
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