listen to the weekend for sheils. charity evening.

[sus]

The Morning is the best Weeknd song I reckon

 

[woops]

It's interesting, The Weeknd feels like he is top of the world right now, at peak powers, entering his own Michael Jackson-level era. But if you look at the playcount on Spotify, we're talking like 20-60mil plays, which is like Caroline Polachek territory.

OTOH, his top couple tracks have 1.5 bil plays so there's just a huge tail-off in terms of singles listening vs album listening, that's a scale of 100:1

all discuss the tunes except gus discuss stats

 

[sus]

What do people make of the idea that the first listen is pretty "blind" and more of a "wearing in" of the album, that you can't know whether it's catchy, and can't distinguish between Just OK and Great until you've given it a few listens

 

[shiels]

the last 3 weeknd albums were very catchy so I dont get what the big idea is

what happened to the Americans? Once so thoughtful

 

[linebaugh]

in another world suspended wears an ovo/xo hoodie and is very succesful local pot/xanax dealer with his own street theory on clout and hedge

 

[linebaugh]

what happened to the Americans? Once so thoughtful

Im being very insightful on the le epic choons thread right now

 

[sus]

My old school pal Derek and my live-in maid Nico both say that it's the 2nd listen for them. But me, I think it happens anywhere between listen 3-9, sometimes it can get into the teens before the song "clicks" for me and I like it

 

[sus]

My friend Ben says that loving something is just a matter of learning to speak its language, see eg Stockholm syndrome—what do we make of that?

 

[linebaugh]

What do people make of the idea that the first listen is pretty "blind" and more of a "wearing in" of the album, that you can't know whether it's catchy, and can't distinguish between Just OK and Great until you've given it a few listens

I can usually tell if something is worth listening to on first listen but sometimes it wont 'click' for a few listens ya

 

[sus]

what happened to the Americans? Once so thoughtful

It wasn't rewarded. I'm a slave to the training system of attention, quotations, and likes.

 

[linebaugh]

have less patience for that at the moment though. theres so much music that I love nearly instantly that Im always coming across

 

[linebaugh]

the last album that grew on me like that was Whole Lotta Red, the best rap album of the last decade

 

[luka]

none of them quite manage to becomes 'songs' do they

 

[woops]

My friend Ben says that loving something is just a matter of learning to speak its language, see eg Stockholm syndrome—what do we make of that?

this is the kind of thing where stan will reply with 4-6 thoughtful, agreeing posts and the rest of us despair

 

[sus]

the last album that grew on me like that was Whole Lotta Red, the best rap album of the last decade

Let's listen to that next

 

[luka]

im listening to the best one so far. its called dont break my heart.

 

[sus]

this is the kind of thing where stan will reply with 4-6 thoughtful, agreeing posts and the rest of us despair

Ringleader

 

[luka]

hes a limited vocalist which doesnt help. reminds me of the dream in that sense.

 

[linebaugh]

thats always been the weeknds issue. cant write songs. its funny that when he does manage to actually write a song its pretty good. some artists write plenty of songs but they never relate. with the weeknds its either a nothing or a pretty good song

 

[woops]

alright well to go into more detail i can see why that kind of idea might appeal, convince etc but if youstand back and look at it it's a "misanthropic and reductive" (@luka) viewpoint, the idea that taste can basically be brainwashed into you, the equivalence of "entertainers"/artists with sadistic captors, i wouldn't want to look at it that way myself and apart from a flashy metaphor i don't see what's gained. there.