The evolution of emotion

Two visionaries have made bold claims about the development of human emotions

Self-described marxist terrorist @thirdform claims that it’s now impossible to love:

noone falls in love in 2019 though. literally no one. the motivations are far more base and transactional. of course this has positives and negatives.

this isn't revolting because it's emotionally fatuous and juvenile, that would be amazing. it's revolting because it's cute. I hate cuteness in 2020! it's like people who still believe we can still fall in love. barty's music is far more futuristic than this with its burnt out benzo delirium.

World bard and very bold boy @luka screeches emotions don't exist anymore!

But that model of the human which is being represented no longer exists.mfor a start, we don't have emotions anymore.we're quite different.

What do they mean? Is this just solipsistic or sociopathic feelings they're projecting? O are they right, and if so what is happening to us?
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
By its very nature, love cannot be dead/extinct/devolved/out competed

If you think of a higher self as a reality, the better angels of your nature, how is that defunct?

Emotion case study - romantic love. You can be reductive about it as a chemical bonding process, hugs as oxytocin engines, quote Rust Cohle (lol) that men and women is only about making kids so doomed once procreation has waned. Great. What about the other 7 forms? Have they been cancelled too? Only in the farce of O9A land. Is anger an aberration? Dismissing them creates disjunctive identification

Emotions lead us to ethics, foundational structures for humans over the course of our journey

#Morphine
 

thirdform

Well-known member
you have to imagine love for it to be real. let me be your fantasy. There's no fantasy in 2022, it's strictly the Minoan eruption.
 

WashYourHands

Cat Malogen
On the contrary, the least interesting bit of adultery is the sex or the procreative activity.

With you about holding a piss in for 12/24 hours is a release, but conflating with sex is more fetishistic. Any adulterers i know (and have known) do so for countless different reasons, key areas being boredom, sex and support

There are as many forms of sex as there are love. Why dismiss such a rich tapestry of experience in our existence. Even submitting to sodomy carries emotional, soul purging, physical heft, does it not?
 

thirdform

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With you about holding a piss in for 12/24 hours is a release, but conflating with sex is more fetishistic. Any adulterers i know (and have known) do so for countless different reasons, key areas being boredom, sex and support

There are as many forms of sex as there are love. Why dismiss such a rich tapestry of experience in our existence. Even submitting to sodomy carries emotional, soul purging, physical heft, does it not?

I'm just saying love itself is contradictory, and is rarely as mutually transactional as its made out to be. Love is just as much about awe and adventure as it is support and sex, a claim you validate.

But the idea of love as this angelic absolute I think elides what is really at stake here. We are animals, and animals are desiring machines (here desire should not at all just be conflated with sex.) Higher metaphysical purposes are post-hoc, grafted on developments. I'm tbf not sure how high @shiels got when he created this thread, but all I was observing is it's much harder in todays day and age to have those metaphysical foundations. Ignorance of people around you is a kind of bliss, a development negated by the virtualisation of most of social life.
 

thirdform

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can you really be sincere or expect sincerity from others in todays age would have been a better question to ask rather than pillaging my quotes out of context, but ehh so it goes.
 
Its good to be in love and the love you have for your kids is (mostly) great as well. Unconditional stuff, very different kind of emotion

We can all hide behind our lonely masks and sloganeer our turmoil but really a lot of us are just like turtles wanting someone to aimlessly meander with

At some point the youthful nihilism needs to subside or the latter years can become bleak
 
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On the contrary, the least interesting bit of adultery is the sex or the procreative activity.

I spent most of my early twenties (and late teens i guess) trying to run around with several girls at the same time and often failing miserably then getting caught, definitely disagree

Trying to juggle all your shit and keeping everything segregated was so fucking hard, especially up north. It is easier in London if you're okay with bombing around tube lines as its so big & more tribal to be honest

it was a lot of stress, especially when you're living with someone and trying to do it too. You have to be a bit of a social chameleon if you want to do it successfully, different scenes and vibes

Too many masks, too hectic. The sex is the only good thing about it
 

luka

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As far as evolution goes I suppose emotions are something people did when there was nothing else going on
 
can you really be sincere or expect sincerity from others in todays age would have been a better question to ask rather than pillaging my quotes out of context, but ehh so it goes
Yes because you’re always so generous and accommodating with others views!

Im sensationalising as wee joke. I’ve read you say similar a few times, and as with lukes thing on emotions - obviously provocative and extreme but there’s interesting stuff to explore
 

luka

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Hard work, stress and anguish for softies like us but I think some men have a whole different outlook
 
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