A Voyage Into Serenity: Your Meditation Journal

[luka]

it lets you say not just i feel awful today, but i feel awful in this specific way. a little bit of space and distance before you plunge into the world of distractions and work.

 

[william_kent]

it's definitely a better way to start the day than looking at your phone, or, as Craner, horrifingly, is in the habit of, immediately switching on the 24 hour news channel for footage of war and destruction.

that's actually quite tantric, in a left-hand path style

 

[luka]

towards the end of my sessions which typically last anywhere from 6 to 13 minutes i often find a resolution takes shape, a moment of clarity emerges and i say to myself firmly and enthusaistically, today i will phone Craner and tell him I love him, for example.

 

[luka]

that's actually quite tantric, in a left-hand path style

not for the faint-hearted though. thighbone trumpet crew only.

 

[william_kent]

from "Aghora: At the left-hand of God" - Robert E. Svoboda

 

[woops]

does anyone know any powerful guru's @luka @william_kent

 

[luka]

it lets you say not just i feel awful today, but i feel awful in this specific way. a little bit of space and distance before you plunge into the world of distractions and work.

i was reading a poem today which may or may not relate to this idea of space, creating space between eye & object, object & word.

J.H. Prynne – A Gold Ring Called Reluctance

As you drag your feet or simply being / Tired, the ground is suddenly interesting; / Not as metaphysic but the grave maybe / That area which claims its place like / A shoe. The

genius.com

 

[luka]

"The private recourse that might also reclaim the transfer is our hesitancy. Whenever we find our unwillingness a form on which to pause."

but actually, it's anyone's guess what that might indicate.

 

[thirdform]

it's definitely a better way to start the day than looking at your phone, or, as Craner, horrifingly, is in the habit of, immediately switching on the 24 hour news channel for footage of war and destruction.

Zizek talks about how these news channels are a facade to pretend that things are worse than they actually are, for fairly comfortable westerners. I'm not sure if I'd put it like that but Craner's sadomasochism is fascinating.

 

[luka]

Agreed. it is fascinating.

 

[craner]

towards the end of my sessions which typically last anywhere from 6 to 13 minutes i often find a resolution takes shape, a moment of clarity emerges and i say to myself firmly and enthusaistically, today i will phone Craner and tell him I love him, for example.

You've never done that!

 

[luka]

well i dont have your phone number

 

[craner]

Zizek talks about how these news channels are a facade to pretend that things are worse than they actually are, for fairly comfortable westerners. I'm not sure if I'd put it like that but Craner's sadomasochism is fascinating.

If there is anyone on this forum less likely to start meditating than me, surely it's @thirdform

 

[thirdform]

If there is anyone on this forum less likely to start meditating than me, surely it's @thirdform

why would I? it's haram.

 

[Clinamenic]

Just did 100 minutes, standing, and I'm starting to see just how easy it can become to sustain a state of thoughtlessness, which is especially profound for us hyperintellectuals/neurotics.

Also, in observing my fluttering preoccupations with later activities, I'm starting to see how this preoccupation can be diminished, with work.

 

[luka]

i was laughing last night at the image of your mum walking in to the room to find you stood there, catatonic, drooling slightly
"Stan, (shakes you) Stan! what's happened to you Stan?"

i did 10 minutes today. eyes unable to focus. inner atmosphere muggy, pleasant"

 

[luka]

what do you find there in the absence of thought Stan? how would you describe the internal conditions and events?

 

[Clinamenic]

what do you find there in the absence of thought Stan? how would you describe the internal conditions and events?

Any trace of existential angst or dismay is entirely erased, and a sense of ineffable understanding is approached. I rationalize this sense of understanding in terms of my mental activity being just an aspect of a larger unfolding of the structure of energy of the universe, which I mean figuratively and scientifically.

 

[Clinamenic]

i was laughing last night at the image of your mum walking in to the room to find you stood there, catatonic, drooling slightly
"Stan, (shakes you) Stan! what's happened to you Stan?"

i did 10 minutes today. eyes unable to focus. inner atmosphere muggy, pleasant"

I love how this vision involves my mom calling me Stan.

 

[Clinamenic]

Any trace of existential angst or dismay is entirely erased, and a sense of ineffable understanding is approached. I rationalize this sense of understanding in terms of my mental activity being just an aspect of a larger unfolding of the structure of energy of the universe, which I mean figuratively and scientifically.

It involves a release of the urge to will my state of mind into a more favorable direction. The compulsion toward progress dissipates and a sense of ultimate fulfillment dawns, if even in a fragmented way.

Really it makes much of my ongoing cerebral project seem like a goose chase. That said, I still do believe that having a larger project to progress through is important, but this practice should help sift away the nonsense.