Deleuze Drum Machines

[ome]

 

[Clinamenic]

Funny, I just saw this pop up in my recommendations, and my first thought was that it belonged on Dissensus.

 

[Clinamenic]

In fact, I'd have trouble conceiving of a more Dissensian thing. Maybe if Zizek did a cultural critique of rave culture or something.

 

[john eden]

I watched half of that and enjoyed it @ome

 

[vimothy]

heidegger thinks of Nietzsche as the ultimate end of western metaphysics but it seems to me that deleuze is a further step in its trajectory, representing no longer simply the will to power as an end in itself but now as the dissolution of the subject into the "will to will", with culture as an undirected probe-head evolving without any aim at all.

 

[vimothy]

deleuze therefore appears to be the pre-eminent theorist of digital capitalism / techno rationalism, predicting the dominance of "AI" and the ascendancy of the machines.

 

[vimothy]

however the problem for deleuzians and the deluezian vision of the future can be seen from the analogy with drum machines, which is that drum machines need to be programmed. it's not simply about what the drum machine can do but also what the operator of the drum machine can do with it

 

[linebaugh]

however the problem for deleuzians and the deluezian vision of the future can be seen from the analogy with drum machines, which is that drum machines need to be programmed. it's not simply about what the drum machine can do but also what the operator of the drum machine can do with it

I think a deluzian would respond that a drum machine merely needs to be turned on

 

[vimothy]

surely a deluezian would say that a drum machine does not even need to be turned on

 

[version]

Vim, stop willing on the catastrophe.

 

[version]

I picked up Anti-Oedipus again recently. I'm about halfway through and just read an incredibly tedious section on incest that went completely over my head and made me never want to read the word "filiation" ever again.

 

[version]

I know it's supposed to be difficult, but can't help feeling not having read Marx, Freud, Lacan and Nietzsche beforehand is making it that much more difficult.

 

[linebaugh]

I picked up Anti-Oedipus again recently. I'm about halfway through and just read an incredibly tedious section on incest that went completely over my head and made me never want to read the word "filiation" ever again.

thats the worst section. Just saying the same thing over and over again.

 

[version]

thats the worst section. Just saying the same thing over and over again.

It's in the section you described as "very exciting".

 

[Clinamenic]

I know it's supposed to be difficult, but can't help feeling not having read Marx, Freud, Lacan and Nietzsche beforehand is making it that much more difficult.

You can do what I did, and just watch a ton of lectures. It's no replacement, but you can get the gist of a lot of this stuff that way.

 

[vimothy]

idk if this is an illegal take but I much prefer a thousand plateaus

 

[luka]

ive not read any of them

 

[version]

idk if this is an illegal take but I much prefer a thousand plateaus

The BwO plateau is miles better than the whole first half of AO.

 

[vimothy]

ive not read any of them

classic dissensus humble brag

 

[luka]

version what is your avatar? it's quite Mancunian.