Vigilantes

shakahislop

Well-known member
yeah I think vigilante's can only really exist within the context of a state - if there was never a state or police it's just different factions using violence to enforce some rules
yeah. but including social rules as they see it. killing people for being gay. for marrying the wrong person. for being thought to be possessed by spirits. whatever. more or less everywhere has a state though. its just complemented by random community members or whoever taking things into their own hands. it's hard to generalize about like the whole world but all this stuff goes on where you have police and a government. i don't know if it counts as vigilante-ism, sometimes in the academic stuff it gets called community justice. it's not what the thread's about anyway
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
the taliban basically started as a vigilante group, back in the day. i'm not exaggerating. and now look at them. got a whole country haven't they. hoping that the men and women of blackbird leys come to the same fate
 

Mr. Tea

Shub-Niggurath, Please
the Koreans on the rooves didn't kill anyone. Presumably guns have a deterrent effect.
Not on the roofs, but the looting was sparked by the killing of a black girl by a Korean shopkeeper.

 

sufi

lala
Fish vigilantes 1
Greenpeace dropping boulders into the sea to foul drag nets

Fish vigilantes 2
Fishing people and conservationists crowdfunding an independent researcher to challenge government whitewashing of potential chemical incident
 

IdleRich

IdleRich
my sister told me that it was the joyriding capital of england in the 90s but i doubt that's true
No it was. It was on the news every night at one point, it's the first thing I think of even now when people say Blackbird Leys, they would have reporters in the estates talking about illegal races with stolen cars... in my head it was like The Fast and Furious films (or rather when they came out I thought "ah they made a film about Blackbird Leys") but I'm sure it was exaggerated.
 

luka

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right. i mean once you get outside 'the west' or whatever there's a lot of this stuff about, people outside the state using violence in a semi-organized way. it's a phenomenon that i don't think you can label good or bad, it really depends on exactly what's going on and the morality can be murky. one of my friends was telling me about how frequently people in the rural areas of Tanzania are murdered, as punishment by the community, or more accurately some self-appointed section of the commuity, for some (real or imagined) crime. that's just one example, from my perspective this kind of thing is everywhere if you take it at a global scale.

i guess you could call that a vigilante thing
firends of mine have been impressed on trips to tobago and jamacia by the punishment beatings meted out to theives. not that it was ever established that they were theives. someone shouted thief and everyone in the vicinity beat them half to death.
 

luka

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similar to how any adult in africa is allowed to wallop any child on any pretext i guess.
 

luka

Well-known member
clearly there's pros and cons here. community empowerment is nice, slight danger that you might accidently kill someone who didnt deserve it.
 
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