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is not like other people
...but as i say i'm an old fart
music writing that feels like a relic from the past: a repository
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shakahislop
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yeah right. that oasis gig as well actually. hard to separate out the personal aging effect from reality obviously. but it is a pretty fascinating thing to me. that over a comparatively short time it feels like a different world. i don't think that's necessarily just a normal thing that human beings experience; i do think it says something about the times themselves.
shakahislop
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for one thing in that oasis video - and you're going to have to take it as read that i'm not a racist or a xenophobe - it is striking how comprehensively white that crowd is. unbroken pale hues, like the 19th century
wild greens
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All just lads down the pub at the end of the day
WashYourHands
Cat Malogen
its proper name is the wellend
forclosure
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this infamous Jon Caramancia piece comes to mind especially when you consider it wasn't that long ago XXXtentaction,6ix9ine and Tay-K were all controversial in one way or another (xxxtentaction was so close to be a superstar) "avant-garde need not be moral just seems stupid now" https://www.villagevoice.com/2005/01/11/intricacy-and-economy/
forclosure
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i also think of Robert Christagau suggesting that since Wendy O Williams from the Plasmatics couldn't sing that she should try singing with her pussy lips
and then there's his review of M.O.P.'s Warriorz :
"Warriorz [Loud, 2000]
Ooh, Eminem, scary. You want a rap record to terrify your ass, how about one with a street anthem about robbing niggaz? Socially redeeming characteristic: will discourage young African American men from wearing jewelry. Billy Danze is the coarse-grained DMX bellower with the crazy laugh, Lil' Fame his rugged sidekick. Wielding brazen, unrelenting samples, they attack like a firing squad on a spree, with a fierce joy Guns N' Roses would abjure hard drugs for. As is no secret, I hate gangsta rap-hate its smugness, its brutality, its cool, its lies, its contempt for the ordinary, its failure to provide role models for young African American men. But this specimen convinces me that, sometimes, thugs have more fun-get large in the ways that matter by shitting on anybody they fucking feel like. I scoff at "guilty pleasures," too. Pleasure is nothing to feel guilty about. This may be. A-"
and then there's his review of M.O.P.'s Warriorz :
"Warriorz [Loud, 2000]
Ooh, Eminem, scary. You want a rap record to terrify your ass, how about one with a street anthem about robbing niggaz? Socially redeeming characteristic: will discourage young African American men from wearing jewelry. Billy Danze is the coarse-grained DMX bellower with the crazy laugh, Lil' Fame his rugged sidekick. Wielding brazen, unrelenting samples, they attack like a firing squad on a spree, with a fierce joy Guns N' Roses would abjure hard drugs for. As is no secret, I hate gangsta rap-hate its smugness, its brutality, its cool, its lies, its contempt for the ordinary, its failure to provide role models for young African American men. But this specimen convinces me that, sometimes, thugs have more fun-get large in the ways that matter by shitting on anybody they fucking feel like. I scoff at "guilty pleasures," too. Pleasure is nothing to feel guilty about. This may be. A-"
craner
Beast of Burden
I knew you’d enjoy that, I dug it out especially for you.
version
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One of the primary differences these days seems to be the distance between the reviewer and the material. They don't necessarily discuss whether they like it or how it sounds, but they do discuss the cultural influence and positioning of it, what it represents, how other people have or will respond to it.
We did the same thing with Joker on here. Some of us didn't even watch the film, but we ended up with a big thread on the cultural implications of it.
We did the same thing with Joker on here. Some of us didn't even watch the film, but we ended up with a big thread on the cultural implications of it.
version
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The ephemeral nature of the web's obviously a major factor. You might want to write a serious review of something, but does it feel worth putting in the work for an article that will disappear within days, if not hours, or a Letterboxd review or YouTube comment that will get buried? That or it gets picked up on for the wrong reasons and you get roasted by a bunch of people on Twitter.
The tech caters to firing out impulsive fragments and checking your impulses for fear of censure. That, combined with the ideological framework for assessing everything, is pretty limiting.
The tech caters to firing out impulsive fragments and checking your impulses for fear of censure. That, combined with the ideological framework for assessing everything, is pretty limiting.
craner
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I like Kiehl’s liquid body cleanser for morning ablutions, but I use an organic moisturiser which doesn’t sting my eyes.
forclosure
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i mean this is what twitter tried to do with having a bigger character length and allowing people to make threads, it makes things slightly easier and of better use for people who want to do that sort of long form thing but even then the very manner in which its structured just doesn't help in the long run