music writing that feels like a relic from the past: a repository

version

Well-known member
i mean this is what twitter tried to do with having a bigger character length and allowing people to make threads, it makes things slightly easier and of better use for people who want to do that sort of long form thing but even then the very manner in which its structured just doesn't help in the long run
Yeah, they killed blogging and now people write blog posts as Twitter threads.
 

Leo

Well-known member
One of the primary differences these days seems to be the distance between the reviewer and the material. They don't necessarily discuss whether they like it or how it sounds, but they do discuss the cultural influence and positioning of it, what it represents, how other people have or will respond to it.

and then they sometimes mock "thick" readers who just want to know what the record sounds like, and if it's any good. these writers are beyond such petty concerns.
 

wild greens

Well-known member
I guess this is like listening to the first wu tang in 1993, jungle starting to coalesce and looking at lester bangs writing about rod stewart in 77

That seems like a much bigger departure to me than hipsters listening to music in a weird venue in new york tbh
 

forclosure

Well-known member
Yeah, they killed blogging and now people write blog posts as Twitter threads.
yeah when i think about it's like how when you think about it VICE documentaries are just the significantly truncated version of documentaries like Hated:the GG Allin documentary or Citizen Shane that would come out in the 90s those things would be 2 hours long but they found a way to give you everything you want and need in 15-20 minutes
 

version

Well-known member
It isn't music writing, but this is a real time capsule.

FI1S-DbX0A0gI-0.jpeg
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
interesting to speculate about what kinds of things will become not-OK to write. i do find it quite amazing this kind of change, though i know that its probably been going on for a hundred years; its just that the recent eruptions are the first time i've been old enough to notice it. my bet is on that american joke about getting raped in prison, which is absolutely everywhere, but which surely at some point it will click to the people who make these kinds of waves that that's a real thing that happens, and ergo not something that we should be joking about like that
 

luka

Well-known member
i think the needle swings back & forward a bit too, even if the arc of the moral universe really does bend towards justice.
 

shakahislop

Well-known member

another bit of writing from another planet
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
“Just the other day,” Lewis adds, “he was playing me some crazed thing by some band. I’d never even heard of it.” What was it? “Speed metal.”

Adams raves, “I just really dig records. And I love metal. I think some people even think I’m joking when I tell them that I like Mariah Carey. I really like her records. They’re so cool and fun. She’s really fun, really sexy.”
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
from a book by the drummer from, of all bands, Semisonic, whom I want to state for the record I have no interest in.

“I got to know Dan's bandmate John after moving to Minneapolis, when for a brief time we shared an apartment. He had dropped out of college, where he had studied Chinese, to play in bands and make records. John's days started slowly, and it wasn't unusual for me to return from my day job to find him sitting on the couch, luxuriating in a pair of flannel-lined jeans and a soft wool sweater, stroking his cat, and savoring a cigarette and a glass of merlot while listening to Charles Mingus. As evening arrived, he might stand up and yawn and then, after gliding through the streets in a battered but well-heated 1967 Sedan de Ville, drop in on a friend unannounced. Occasionally, without consulting the weather forecast, he would disappear into the woods on the Canadian border for solo camping trips whose length was never predetermined. His friends held their breath waiting for his return, and when he resurfaced to knock on a friend's door at bedtime, he would walk in, sit down in the living room, and recount with nonchalance nearly freezing to death in his tent and his subsequent escape from a blizzard.”

this kind of mythmaking was everywhere in music writing at some point and feels unbelievably retro now
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
1673363938344.png

a photo from 2004 in the guardian today, quite aside from what cameras made things look like then, and the haircuts and clothes, the thing of it being cool for the young lads to be together in a guitar band, all mates drinking together, an outgrowth of school and the pub, feels like a relic now
 

Leo

Well-known member
Is there no UK indie guitar band scene at all anymore? I have no idea. fewer, certainly.
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
Is there no UK indie guitar band scene at all anymore? I have no idea. fewer, certainly.
i don't follow it so i don't know, but my impression is that its not in vogue. obviously people are still going to make that kind of music. the only thing i can think of that's really blown up is Idles, I guess Fontaines DC (who i've never listened to). and even then i think it's a lot less 'lads in the pub'. had a quick look at the glastonbury line up for this year, which is a good barometer for that stuff, and the UK guitar bands on the main four or five stages are like Primal Scream and Foals, so bands that got big at least a decade ago.
 

shakahislop

Well-known member
more than the music though it's the aesthetic, the Libertines thing of boys in a band (and the gentle implication that you and your mates could do it too), it was massive for a decade, the 00s and a bit later, and now it's gone

not that that is a particularly bad thing but it's good to at least notice these things
 
Top