internet natives and their pathologies

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
I think understanding that emotions are as much an external force as internal is an unreachable limit for mass groups, at least in the west
Yeah this is getting at what I mean by seeing through emotions (which I've previously referred to as "transcending" emotion, which seems misguided in hindsight), the process of which may allow one to break from emotionally-compelled behavior and mental activity, in ways that may expedite the understanding you are talking about.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Then the task becomes observing emotions and correlating them to certain stimuli, or more broadly observing your emotional trends over time and how they are impacted by ongoing experiences.
 

luka

Well-known member
There was "a mass outpouring of emotion" that seemed viral. @Simon silverdollarcircle and @Slothrop who would have been teenagers at the time both describe finding themselves walking to Buckingham Palace with wreaths of flowers to lay at the gates, sobbing desperately, and then, in the aftermath, feeling as though they had been possessed. That it hadn't been them that had performed the actions, but something else had ridden them there
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
There was "a mass outpouring of emotion" that seemed viral. @Simon silverdollarcircle and @Slothrop who would have been teenagers at the time both describe finding themselves walking to Buckingham Palace with wreaths of flowers to lay at the gates, sobbing desperately, and then, in the aftermath, feeling as though they had been possessed. That it hadn't been them that had performed the actions, but something else had ridden them there
What kind of role did the princess play in the lives of the middle class? I find it hard to imagine such a state of sympathy for a political figure.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
I'd imagine something between celebrity and matriarchal figure, i.e. a combo of allure and nourishment? Even though the latter would be more fit for a queen, I suppose.
 

luka

Well-known member
What kind of role did the princess play in the lives of the middle class? I find it hard to imagine such a state of sympathy for a political figure.
Well, none as far as I know. That's why it was so strange and eerie.
 

luka

Well-known member
Nobody was quite sure why it was happening. We'd never seen anything like it before, and haven't since, though other celebrity deaths have offered a slight echo of it
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
But clearly if such a visceral chord was struck, the woman must have occupied an integral, if even abstract, role in the lives of many.
 

luka

Well-known member
But Limburgers point is important here I think, which is why I brought Diana up in the first place
 

woops

is not like other people
it's not so much that she performed any particular role but was continually portrayed on telly as the "people's princess", had the common touch, worked in a (very posh presumably) nursery school before marriage, hugged aids babies, campaigned against land mines, was betrayed in love, found new love with someone not white and died straight away, followed by a compulsory "outpouring of emotion" as luke says, again on telly, whole nation bursting into tears after watching
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
Well a lot of people have suggested it played into some mythic archetype or something.
Yeah thats what I'm trying to get at re: matriarchal figure, a position of leadership that is also depended upon for emotional nourishment and support.
 

Clinamenic

Binary & Tweed
it's not so much that she performed any particular role but was continually portrayed on telly as the "people's princess", had the common touch, worked in a (very posh presumably) nursery school before marriage, hugged aids babies, campaigned against land mines, was betrayed in love, found new love with someone not white and died straight away, followed by a compulsory "outpouring of emotion" as luke says, again on telly, whole nation bursting into tears after watching
Fascinating, celebrity as a tool of populism. It seems obvious, really, and I'm sure it's been used in many cases. Just never occurred to me so plainly before. Although I suppose the philanthropy elevates it beyond mere celebrity, in this case.
 

woops

is not like other people
s thats what I'm trying to get at re: matriarchal figure, a position of leadership that is also depended upon for emotional nourishment and support.
she wasn't in a position of leadership though, more like a scapegoat for everyone's emotional deficiencies, their despair at a cruel world, her betrayal in love by a prince of the realm

complete with theme song
 
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