Can You Feel It vs. The Final Frontier

Can You Feel It vs. The Final Frontier

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Benny Bunter

Benny Bunter

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version said:
It better be good! You and Luke have really sold me on it.
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Iirc he plays stuff like jagged edge and ja rule, all slow jams, and he literally never stops talking. I remember playing it to my flatmate at the time, who liked some rnb like Beyonce and stuff but had never heard any pirate radio before, being totally dumbfounded by it, "Does he ever shut up? Why does he keep reading phone numbers out?" He just couldn't get his head round why anyone would want to listen to it. So your mileage may vary...
 
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padraig (u.s.) said:
also, don't want to totally rehash an argument I'm sure has been had plenty of times

but I'd push back pretty hard against UR as po-faced

the early stuff especially is, mostly, very functional dance music, whatever else it is

pretty sure that charge is far more true of (a section of) their fanbase - esp in the 90s-00s? than them. in fact feels like a ca. early 2000s argument (tbc I wasn't aware or involved in such arguments at the time, but from what I've read/the vibes I get), when people cared a lot more seriousness and idk, credibility. also UR were the first ppl (I think?) to do the militant faceless techno thing - as an auteur whole, rather than just making anonynmous records I mean - and a million people have done it since (mostly minus the militancy) which has probably considerably diluted the impact of the original and made it seem like more of a po-faced affectation I guess - whereas UR was firmly rooted in a local, historical context in Detroit and more broadly America.

the inward, bedroom aspect of worldbuilding is true, but that's more of a Drexciya thing than UR proper, which does have some level of worldbuilding I guess but nothing approaching the Drexciyan level of detail, where Lardossa etc could practically be a D+D campaign setting (which sounds amazing tbh)
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where u been at Padraig?
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

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linebaugh said:
Will I be bullied for saying I dont like most of his music after 1989?
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nah I think basically everyone here would agree, tho it may differ depending on yr take on deep house in general (99% snooze to me)

from 86-89 he's fucking untouchable tho, I'd probably only put Pierre (and maybe Marshall Jefferson) in his class from those initial house legends

if I had it to pick one track it would definitely be Distant Planet, which also actually matches up considerably better w/Final Frontier

and my further absolute essentials shortlist would be something like: Bring Down the Walls, Donnie (what a fucking banger), Housefactors - Go Crazy, Blakk Society - Just Another Day
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

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peak Fingers reminds me of certain Detroit folks - Robert Hood, Dan Bell (specifically as DBX) - in his ability to conjure forth absolute magic from extremely minimal ingredients, as in Bring Down the Walls or Donnie

a lot of the classic Chicago dudes were good at that but he was, I think, the best

definitely the best at infusing the impossibly groovy minimal groove with melancholy or yearning or idk what you want to call it - him + Robert Owens is a truly magical pairing
 
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i like Heard's later stuff *shrugs* Love's arrival ,where life begins,Alien i think their good and i don't consider myself a big deep house guy
 
padraig (u.s.)

padraig (u.s.)

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fun Chicago fact I learned relatively recently is that post-1990 there was something of a geographical split in Chicago house

southside - deep, west side - ghetto Dance Mania (and eventually onto juke etc)

idk how pronounced it was, and I certainly wasn't around in those days but having lived on the west side for like 8 years it definitely feels right

only really interesting to a Chicagoan I guess, the way Londoners would care about part of London what grime or whatever was from

the night I moved into current place - last summer - someone was absolutely HAMMERING "Percolator" at 3 AM - people tend to party on the street around here, like with their own soundsystems - and I was like, well if you're going to keep me up (I had to be at work at 8) at least you're doing it with a stone-cold west side classic, tho tbf idk what neighborhood Green Velvet is actually from.
 
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padraig (u.s.) said:
fun Chicago fact I learned relatively recently is that post-1990 there was something of a geographical split in Chicago house

southside - deep, west side - ghetto Dance Mania (and eventually onto juke etc)

idk how pronounced it was, and I certainly wasn't around in those days but having lived on the west side for like 8 years it definitely feels right

only really interesting to a Chicagoan I guess, the way Londoners would care about part of London what grime or whatever was from

the night I moved into current place - last summer - someone was absolutely HAMMERING "Percolator" at 3 AM - people tend to party on the street around here, like with their own soundsystems - and I was like, well if you're going to keep me up (I had to be at work at 8) at least you're doing it with a stone-cold west side classic, tho tbf idk what neighborhood Green Velvet is actually from.
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i'd take hearing Green Velvet over hearing dogs barking outside my bedroom window
 
Leo

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WebEschatology said:
i like Heard's later stuff *shrugs* Love's arrival ,where life begins,Alien i think their good and i don't consider myself a big deep house guy
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I'm with you, peak Heard is what padraig said but later stuff has its place. I kind of like deep house but there are times when it works, even his last Fingers record "cerebral hemispheres" is quality. it's nothing compared to "amnesia" of course, but a different things.
 
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Benny B said:
Iirc he plays stuff like jagged edge and ja rule, all slow jams, and he literally never stops talking. I remember playing it to my flatmate at the time, who liked some rnb like Beyonce and stuff but had never heard any pirate radio before, being totally dumbfounded by it, "Does he ever shut up? Why does he keep reading phone numbers out?" He just couldn't get his head round why anyone would want to listen to it. So your mileage may vary...
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Got it on atm. There are some breaks, but yeah, he's pretty much nonstop. The singing...

😂
 
luka

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when i did my show i was definitely partly thinking of randy. mostly of drug spangled cockneys in 1992 but also of randy
 
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