The White rapper thread

WebEschatology

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i mean their a comedy rap act which comedy rap especially in this country is lets say is a fraught issue in this country

much of the humour all even now with rap music is still like "lol rap music is a thing" comes from the same place as that awful Ben Folds bitches ain't shit cover

its why Honey G, Big Shaq and Unknown P have greater traction than the actual rappers do
and somehow i forgot to mention this is also why one of the American rebuttals to Brits talking about uk rap/drill is to post Unknown P/Big Shaq and say "this is what all British rappers sound like" or "Unknown P is better than every single rapper to come from the UK"

which regardless of my thoughts on Chawawa's "satirical comedy" i'd be interested to know what he thinks of that, this character that he created as a comment on cultural appropriation with rap music being used by Americans as a way to shut Brits up when they want to talk about their music,very strange thing
 

WebEschatology

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i suppose you could put it down to context (which is usually brought in regards to Europes reltionship to american rap) but rarely is it brought up the other way round.

I mean that plus the love of a good broad joke, no matter how you can come with all these precise digs about culture,you just need to say "BEANS" in order for the crowd to die laughing and kill your argument in the same breath
 

version

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i suppose you could put it down to context (which is usually brought in regards to Europes reltionship to american rap) but rarely is it brought up the other way round.
Had the influence ever gone the other way until the Brooklyn Drill stuff? That was interesting. For as long as I can remember, it's always been the UK taking cues from the US then suddenly they're using drill beats and Drake's - I know he's Canadian, but whatever... - trying to sound like he's from London.
 

qwerty south

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R.e. Goldie Lookin Chain - they are also legitimately some of the funniest comedians in the UK of the past 20 years imo.

 

qwerty south

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What are people's thoughts on Chap Hop?

This is one of the best ever UK rap disses imo:


US hip hop has had a strong vein of humour since the early days - just cos it's humourous doesn't mean it's "comedy" nor does that make not "hip hop".
 

WebEschatology

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What are people's thoughts on Chap Hop?

This is one of the best ever UK rap disses imo:


US hip hop has had a strong vein of humour since the early days - just cos it's humourous doesn't mean it's "comedy" nor does that make not "hip hop".
some of the worst and whitest music to come from these Isles

i hate it in the same way i hate nerdcore that plus awkward colonial bullshit that comes with it and people who are into steampunk seem terrible to confront
 

WebEschatology

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you're definitly not wrong about something being humerous doesn't mean its comedy but its often the problem with alot of music that tries to use humour as its way of getting a point across
 

WebEschatology

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Had the influence ever gone the other way until the Brooklyn Drill stuff? That was interesting. For as long as I can remember, it's always been the UK taking cues from the US then suddenly they're using drill beats and Drake's - I know he's Canadian, but whatever... - trying to sound like he's from London.
no i don't think so no to say that Americans haven't liked black british music in the past but yeah not until drill

only examples i can think of is stuff from rock
 

WebEschatology

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and even then man from Chicago and New York will debate you on this

not only that but like NY rap was in a dismal place for ages, the running joke of rap cities and when Pop Smoke, the Blikxys and them lot started rapping over those type of beats it was like "thank god New Yorkers went and stole UK beats so we don't have to listen to you tea sipping chipmunks ever again"

which if you want to read into a statement like that it's basically saying "better to be a New Yorker than a Bit"
 

DannyL

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no i don't think so no to say that Americans haven't liked black british music in the past but yeah not until drill

only examples i can think of is stuff from rock
Roots Manuva used to get a pass I think?
But overall, I think it's exceptional for UK music just to break through, to even be heard against the US cultural noise.
 

shakahislop

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i often think of this as some of the worst music of all time. i did like when i was 16 though, which feels shameful now. my problem with the hiphop i'd heard at that age was how unrelatable it was. and how silly it all sounded, it sounded like a load of people who thought they were hard basically. this terrible music above was much more relatable
 
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catalog

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LSK with NoW from Leeds. I met him on a train once and we were chatting the whole way from london back to leeds, smoked 20 fags and had a bottle of champagne. He invited me round to his house in pudsey for dinner the next day. think he works a lot with Maxi Jazz now.
 

WebEschatology

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i often think of this as some of the worst music of all time. i did like when i was 16 though, which feels shameful now. my problem with the hiphop i'd heard at that age was how unrelatable it was. and how silly it all sounded, it sounded like a load of people who thought they were hard basically. this terrible music above was much more relatable
and this kind of thinking is not only horribly racist but it's how certain nerds end up loving the worst music on the planet

like hearing these dweebs talking about IRC chatrooms or making refferences authors who appear in the New Yorker any less silly and unreleatable to somebody else lol
 
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