Labrinth

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Just discovered this up and coming artist... Linebaugh helped "turn me" on

I have had many thoughts prompted by this inspiring music... I texted to my friend:

You know I was thinking about contemporary dance music, I know it’s a bit of a meme but I think a couple of those big Labrinth singles are pretty good (Mt Everest/Still Don’t Know My Name). I’ve been really enjoying stuff that’s kind of ritualistic repetitive, trance-like, a single melodic line over and over (e.g. Alice Coltrane’s hari Krishna stuff). And it also manages to pull a kind of clean hype-ecstasy “this is fucking it” vibe of dance music awe that is pretty cool to pull off period

Like I can totally see some kid in 2045 browsing through the archives, comes across Mt Everest and is like, wtf is this shit!!

Kinda like those videos of people hearing Running Up The Hill or In The Air Tonight for the first time

IDK living in the archive (like we all do I think these days) fucks with you because you develop this awareness of long cycles of changing critical opinion, the Pierre Menard effect, the way different lenses and time fuck with your framework, alter works/artists reputations

You’re playing long games. I’ve heard it said Mozart was the first classical composer who realized that he was writing “for the ages”—he’d been around long enough in a culture of preserving sheet music past composers’ deaths, and seen how they lived on and were talked about and imitated and revered, that it radically changed his conception of the game he was playing

There’s also the (as exemplified by eg NFTs) the retroactive time stamp desire—to “have gotten there first” in some publicly recognizable way. Where we live in a media ecology of all these documentaries sucking off whatever unknown 70s folk songwriter who was “unknown” and “overlooked by record labels” and is today beloved and recognized

It’s all wrapped up in that funeral fantasy, imagining people waxing poetic in eulogy of your accomplishments and fine quality of char
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This one is probably the best.... it's from the show for zoomers, "Euphoria," about an African-American girl and a white MtF in high school who do lots of drugs together and make out

 
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@suspended this was the first BIG tune that he had as a producer and he co-wrote it, then and now i feel like Tinie's really a non presence on the tune and it's more about the beat and how it switches up near the end
but after that and a couple other hits with people like Professor Green and Loick Essien, he got signed to Syco and things just picked up even more for him from there.

so you gonna watch Euphoria then? don't worry about feeling embarassed to watch it as a grown man ALOT of people did and there was alot of hand wringing over whether the stuff it was depicting was endorsing them, how it wasn't that much different to Skins or how absurd some of the music picks were(i think the correct term is needle drops but whatever)
 
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i'm just saying if what Luka is saying is that you're more into aspect of music that is "why do people listen to this?" i feel like watching a show like Euphoria is crucial to your research
 
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Don't listen to him Webby it's the exact opposite, he's the autistic one whose training program (middle class UK upbringing) left him with an innate, intuitive suspicion of emotion & feeling he can't shake, even as intellectually he's smart enough to call bullshit. (Hence it's sublimated & comes out in his boozing and cold/distancing poetry—His natural world archetype writings are among his best b/c he did enough psychedelics to leave his usual hard shell behind)

My love of this music is pure feel, pure vibe.
 
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Watched Euphoria first season when I came out, and read my share of thinkpieces. It could be a lot worse I reckon. Liked White Lotus better
 
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suspended said:
Don't listen to him Webby it's the exact opposite, he's the autistic one whose training program (middle class UK upbringing) left him with an innate, intuitive suspicion of emotion & feeling he can't shake, even as intellectually he's smart enough to call bullshit. (Hence it's sublimated & comes out in his boozing and cold/distancing poetry—His natural world archetype writings are among his best b/c he did enough psychedelics to leave his usual hard shell behind)

My love of this music is pure feel, pure vibe.
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don't forget his hatred of what he deems "clever" music and ever other week deciding that he doesn't like music anymore

"pure feel pure vibe" so you must be a BIG Enya & Sade fan then?
 
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suspended said:
Exactly well Ive never heard Sade but Enya, sure
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Watch and listen to this.



I remember wanting to write something about Messi just so I could use " ... he move in space with minimum waste and maximum joy ... " as an epigraph.

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I dont always like turning suspended's music threads into a 'why this music is bad' thread but its legitimately how I feel so here goes.


I had a thought recently about 'special Fx music,' Im not sold on the name as its confusing, but my point is that tons of modern music has these extraneous, non musical ideas sprinkled in that function a lot like certain special effects do in movies- they don't exactly add anything to the plot, character building, cinematography or etc., the 'pure' aspects of cinema for lack of a better phrase, they only exist as ways to manufacture a feeling of excitement, its manipulation essentially. The most obvious example I can think of is when a rock song, just before the final chorus, will cut away all the instruments and then the singer will whisper the final lines through a telephone filter voice effect right before the song explodes again for the climactic chorus part. its not really a 'musical' idea you see.

When I listen to that labrinth song thats all I hear. The song sounds like an advertisement for itself. Little musical accoutrements that got popular over the past 10 years slapped atop of a song that has no real ideas beyond 'what if a song sounded tense and triumphant.' the clean grand piano over a trap beat, the loungey, too cool to care delivery of the singer, distorted soul samples swith hard chops, a vaguely dubstep outro, it even has those same articicial volume dynamics akin to what I described in that first paragragh. It sounds like a movie trailer feels and not in a good way
 
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linebaugh said:
When I listen to that labrinth song thats all I hear. The song sounds like an advertisement for itself. Little musical accoutrements that got popular over the past 10 years slapped atop of a song that has no real ideas beyond 'what if a song sounded tense and triumphant.' the clean grand piano over a trap beat, the loungey, too cool to care delivery of the singer, distorted soul samples swith hard chops, a vaguely dubstep outro, it even has those same articicial volume dynamics akin to what I described in that first paragragh. It sounds like a movie trailer feels and not in a good way
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yes but name some songs that are better at sounding "tense and triumphant" (and also celebratory + empty/hollow at the same time)
 
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suspended said:
yes but name some songs that are better at sounding "tense and triumphant" (and also celebratory + empty/hollow at the same time)
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how can you ask for examples of tense and triumphant music when in your own post you mention kate bush

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Your intuition that it "sounds like a movie trailer" is right but that's because it's protagonist music (music that makes you feel like the protagonist)
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see this is why I say you like pervert music. plenty of music that makes you feel like the main character while also managing to attach that mood to real music, unless you are a pervert and you want your tunes completely emptied of anything but the protagonist feeling so it can best assuage some pyscho sexual trauma you have.
 
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